Did they run the same experiment but with people from different backgrounds and ethnicities excluding Europeans and then compare the respective results and come up with a conclusion? Otherwise, it's just a hasty conclusion with unsound methodologies employed in the process.
The white-man effect: How foreigner presence affects behavior in experiments
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#22Making an anecdotal contribution. Kenyan here. I have observed that white people are given preferential treatment and have (strangely) experienced racism against black people in my own country. I have, more than once heard people, mostly uneducated people, saying how much better things would be if we were still colonized. Examples of preferential treatment/racism include, faster service for white people at restaurant…
I imagine the 'white tax' and better 'white service' are both caused by the belief that white people are wealthier. The club might expect a wealthier person to spend more, or a security guard might expect them to tip better. So it's somewhat rational (if unfortunate) to give wealthier people preferential service.
I guess the long term solution is to reduce economic inequality between racial groups.
Re: The white-man effect: How foreigner presence affects behavior in experiments
#23Making an anecdotal contribution. Kenyan here. I have observed that white people are given preferential treatment and have (strangely) experienced racism against black people in my own country. I have, more than once heard people, mostly uneducated people, saying how much better things would be if we were still colonized. Examples of preferential treatment/racism include, faster service for white people at restaurant…
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#24Making an anecdotal contribution. Kenyan here. I have observed that white people are given preferential treatment and have (strangely) experienced racism against black people in my own country. I have, more than once heard people, mostly uneducated people, saying how much better things would be if we were still colonized. Examples of preferential treatment/racism include, faster service for white people at restaurant…
I have been in Sweden few times (I am white), and when people hear me talk, and know that I am visiting from NYC, I get a bit of more friendlier service.
Including getting in a club as a single guy, because I had a california ID, while some Swedish guys were being left outside.
Swedes have a high affinity for America in general, and are extra friendly if they hear you are from the States, and often (with some small talk) you will get preferential treatment.
In NYC you will notice this "differential" treatment according to your status every day. A simple experiment you can run: Go to a good cocktail place/bar with normal t-shirt/jeans clothes, and go to the same place dressed sharp. You will get a lot better and faster service if you are dressed really well (and your perceived status is higher), while if you are dressed like a schlub, you might not even get in the place.
I think it is not just about race, but more of the perceived status of the person. It happens that most countries in Africa have very low GDPs, while most countries in Europe, and north america (US and Canada), have very high GDP. If you are an average person from those countries, your purchasing power is higher, and hence you will be given the preferential treatment.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think we all understand what the author meant by "white-man". There has to be some term for this... The making of unneeded comments on an article that have nothing to do with the study; PC Pedantry perhaps. At least one of the authors is a woman.
Good ol' bikeshedding here.
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#26Making an anecdotal contribution. Kenyan here. I have observed that white people are given preferential treatment and have (strangely) experienced racism against black people in my own country. I have, more than once heard people, mostly uneducated people, saying how much better things would be if we were still colonized. Examples of preferential treatment/racism include, faster service for white people at restaurant…
They're not wrong, they assume a healthy looking white man in Kenya must have money. Honestly, it's hard for me to imagine any situation where a healthy looking white man in Kenya would be poor.
Also, as a American born Nigerian myself, when I'm in Nigeria my relatives there have to do the bargaining. I might look like every other Nigerian, but the moment I open my mouth revealing my "oyinbo"(white people) accent, the price doubles for anything.
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#27Would "white-person" be more accurate here? Do the authors intend to suggest that gender contributes to the effect they claim? [edit: removed silly question]
You know that `man' used to be gender neutral? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_(word) )
And that 'fizzle' used to mean 'fart quietly'? http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=fizzle
And that 'wench' used to mean 'child'? http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=wench
And that 'meat' used to mean 'food'? http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=meat
Etymology is fascinating (a word which itself may be related to the Latin 'fascinum', or penis).
Re: The white-man effect: How foreigner presence affects behavior in experiments
#28Making an anecdotal contribution. Kenyan here. I have observed that white people are given preferential treatment and have (strangely) experienced racism against black people in my own country. I have, more than once heard people, mostly uneducated people, saying how much better things would be if we were still colonized. Examples of preferential treatment/racism include, faster service for white people at restaurant…
I hate to say it, but it doesn't have to do much with race, but more of the perception of "status" of the person. I have been in Sweden few times (I am white), and when people hear me talk, and know that I am visiting from NYC, I get a bit of more friendlier service. Including getting in a club as a single guy, because I had a california ID, while some Swedish guys were being left outside. Swedes have a high affinity…
Re: The white-man effect: How foreigner presence affects behavior in experiments
#29Did they run the same experiment but with people from different backgrounds and ethnicities excluding Europeans and then compare the respective results and come up with a conclusion? Otherwise, it's just a hasty conclusion with unsound methodologies employed in the process.
Re: The white-man effect: How foreigner presence affects behavior in experiments
#30Making an anecdotal contribution. Kenyan here. I have observed that white people are given preferential treatment and have (strangely) experienced racism against black people in my own country. I have, more than once heard people, mostly uneducated people, saying how much better things would be if we were still colonized. Examples of preferential treatment/racism include, faster service for white people at restaurant…