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Re: UX Designer Salaries Around the World

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Post by coldtea » Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 2:14 AM UTC

deathanatos wrote: post #39

socialist_coder wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a tough question. I'm American but living in Germany, and it's quite confusing to me when I look at local jobs and see how much lower the pay is, when compared to the US. I don't really get it. But, I think most professional jobs are like that. Lawyers and Doctors also make far less in Europe than in the US. I think that overall in Europe, there is a much less steep income curve as you advance your career, sk…

> I think that overall in Europe, there is a much less steep income curve as you advance your career, skills, or education. This is good for the majority of people, but bad for your typical HN'er. I don't understand; how is this good for the majority of people?

Because the median is kept higher than in the US, where some people earn shitloads, but a large percentage of the population takes the short end of the stick.

This has several benefits outside of money: more integrated and coherent society (no "white trash" next to yuppies), less homeless people, less incarcerations and violent crimes due to being poor/uneducated/without future/etc. And more people thinking as part of the whole of their country/society, as opposed to "screw others, I just need to get to the top myself".

That said, some advanced countries, like Britain and (less so) France, do resemble the US more, compared to say Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Netherlands, Italy, etc.

Re: UX Designer Salaries Around the World

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Post by JesperRavn » Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 3:43 AM UTC

I think there is a huge opportunity to move more software development to developing countries. It could become the next version of sweatshops, which have done an immense amount to improve the wellbeing of people in the third world. The winners of using cheap labor from overseas are the companies that hire them and the people they hire. The losers are the workers in the first world who are outsourced. But it's crucial to understand that both nations as a whole benefit, and the first world nations are more than capable of redistributing wealth.

When you cut through all the self-interest and xenophobia surrounding outsourcing, there still remain many quality and communications issues. But I believe these will be reduced as more people learn English and recognize the value of English as a market skill.

Re: UX Designer Salaries Around the World

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Post by tdylan » Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 5:17 AM UTC

Jacqued wrote: post #11

bargl wrote: post #4

I'd be interested to see these numbers compared to the benefits offered by companies in each country. I know that in a lot of European countries it is normal to get more time off, the government offers more benefits, etc. I say this because every time there is a thread saying, "X company just got this awesome benefit" someone always says, in Europe this is the norm. Edit: I also bring this up because I've seen compan…

I don't have a statistical run-down by country (which would be the way to do this) but if you compare the US with, say, France, where salaries tend to be 40% of what they are in the US, here's what you have: - Free health care (for Engineering positions, usually with a company-provided complement meaning you never have to pay for anything) - 5 weeks paid vacation/year + 5-10 paid off-days/year (may be more at large c…

Nothing is free. You still pay for healthcare and schooling.

Re: UX Designer Salaries Around the World

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Post by tdylan » Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 5:19 AM UTC

artur_makly wrote: post #22

what's interesting to see in the US data is that Ageism seems to exist. the most experienced person gets paid less. Also it's interesting to note that every UX requirement these days asks for substantial coding experience (on top of everything else non-code related) yet the salaries are at par with a junior coder.

That's not evidence of age-ism. Years of experience != talent/quality of work.

Re: UX Designer Salaries Around the World

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Post by tdylan » Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 5:21 AM UTC

JesperRavn wrote: post #42

I think there is a huge opportunity to move more software development to developing countries. It could become the next version of sweatshops, which have done an immense amount to improve the wellbeing of people in the third world. The winners of using cheap labor from overseas are the companies that hire them and the people they hire. The losers are the workers in the first world who are outsourced. But it's crucial…

Very true. Many people insult Apple over their factories, but the fact remains, those jobs some of the best in the area and are subsequently heavily contested.

Re: UX Designer Salaries Around the World

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Post by wingerlang » Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 10:26 AM UTC

sirtastic wrote: post #20

Pretty much useless. Pay varies so widely depending on state/city for example avg developer pay in San Francisco compared to Sacramento (100 miles away) fluctuates 10-15k (if not more). It also begs to question how honest people are when answering? Is this base salary or salary after benefits/bonus? As others mentioned, cost of living? San Francisco's avg 1 bedroom price is around $3120 while Sacramento is around $10…

The site does have per state responses though?

Re: UX Designer Salaries Around the World

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Post by wodenokoto » Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 10:31 AM UTC

The most experienced guy in Denmark is also the least payed. Hope this encourages some people to start job hunting!