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Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

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Re: Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

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Post by alelefant »

cwkoss wrote: post #42
Artistry121 wrote: post #5

I don't think this move is in Amazon's best interests long term. Their competitive edge with Prime is that I go to them first because I assume they'll have what I want, at a fair price and the highest level of convenience. If they are no longer the "Everything Store" then they won't be where I go to for everything...

Totally agree. They are destroying their most valuable component of their brand, for a relatively weak one (Prime Video). I have Prime and prefer Netflix, because Prime Video still doesn't have a great selection.

I think it's funny that you proved exactly what the poster above you was saying. You don't like Prime simply because of selection.

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Post by tracker1 »

slowmovintarget wrote: post #504
cwkoss wrote: post #42

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Totally agree. They are destroying their most valuable component of their brand, for a relatively weak one (Prime Video). I have Prime and prefer Netflix, because Prime Video still doesn't have a great selection.

Selection was not the issue for me. I view on PC and streaming to a PC from Amazon Prime was essentially non-functional. Crappy Silverlight, which would buffer eternally and never play, or flash, which still paused to buffer every minute. Netflix just works. It'll even play in in higher resolution (not full HD) without the HDMI cable. Prime just says "no" and gives the low-res stream. There are many things on Amazon'…

Agreed, trying to go from one season to the next in the same show is painful.. Amazon Prime Video in general has turned me off ever since they started.. I've had a prime account since it first came out and tend to buy a lot of stuff on amazon... more and more, it's a fairly unpleasant experience and I'm now questioning the need for a prime account.

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Post by Eleopteryx »

CPLX wrote: post #391
x0x0 wrote: post #203

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Ditto, though here's the problem with amazon: buying apple stuff on there is a shit experience. Go there right now and type macbook pro in the search. You'll get a page of results with these top results: Apple MacBook Pro MF839LL/A 13.3-Inch Laptop with Retina Display (128 GB) NEWEST VERSION Apple MacBook Pro MD101LL/A 13.3-Inch Laptop Apple MacBook Pro MJLQ2LL/A 15.4-Inch Laptop with Retina Display (NEWEST VERSION)…

I feel like this is actually a potentially serious problem for Amazon, and it's getting worse. The other day I went to buy a pair of standard issue Apple headphones. The same exact ones that come with the iPhone. Yeah they are slightly overpriced but I am really used to them and they sound good and my pair was getting ratty and I wanted another one. It was literally impossible to do. Try it and see what I mean. I see…

It's a big problem when you know exactly what you want but can't find it because of all of the noise.

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Post by untog »

Splines wrote: post #462
AJ007 wrote: post #307

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This is more about Roku vs Google & Apple than Amazon vs Google & Apple. Roku has been the market leader by far up until 2015. One problem is that Amazon is now inviting consumers to open a direct relationship with Google or Apple. If a user makes a purchase of an Apple TV or Chromecast directly, Google or Apple now know exactly who they are. Generally speaking, making it hard or cutting off sales channels for specif…

I have a Roku, and I bought it for the exact reason that they don't (at least from what I can tell) have their own streaming service. I wanted a device where the makers have a direct stake in making the best experience for all streaming services possible, and there are no second class citizens. I didn't want a device coming from a company participating in multi-sided markets. It just ends up with an internal conflict…

While I agree (and own a Roku myself) I'm concerned that the end game here is all the content owners removing their stuff from Roku and forcing us to buy a dozen HDMI sticks.

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Post by glhaynes »

tracker1 wrote: post #507
robwilliams wrote: post #144

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That's an interesting point. When Google started pushing G+ social networks in general was all the tech media were talking about. Now it's the death of cable and the rise of streaming services. And just like Google wanted it's piece of the buzz-worthy social media space, Amazon wants a piece of the growing streaming market. It's certainly not a good precedent to set banning competitor's products from their store. I c…

Not to mention that it's completely Amazon's decision not to offer streaming apps for AppleTV or Android in general release. Do they really make that much on their hardware that they're willing to continue alienating most of their customers?

So they offer it for game consoles, "smart" TVs, Roku, and handheld devices of all sorts… but not Apple TV or Chromecast? And that's by their choice, not Apple or Google's? Huh.

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Post by westernmostcoy »

chimmy88 wrote: post #510
chimmy88 wrote: post #469

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Actually, no. This seems more like when Apple stopped allowing Kindle books to be sold through an iPhone: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-you-cant-buy-kindle-books...

Not sure why i got downvoted without an explanation. Must be some annoyed Apple fanboy.

Well, a notable difference is that the only party preventing Amazon from streaming to Chromecasts is Amazon.

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Post by lisianne »

Didn't expect this. It sets a wrong precedent and bad signal to Amazon partners. Let us say I have a software product in aws marketplace that competes with one of their core aws offerings successfully will they kick me out?

This action doesn't give much confidence they won't do that

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Post by qubex »

discodave wrote: post #471
robwilliams wrote: post #144

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That's an interesting point. When Google started pushing G+ social networks in general was all the tech media were talking about. Now it's the death of cable and the rise of streaming services. And just like Google wanted it's piece of the buzz-worthy social media space, Amazon wants a piece of the growing streaming market. It's certainly not a good precedent to set banning competitor's products from their store. I c…

It's slightly different in that selling media was originally Amazons core business. First books, then DVDs, then Kindle. Streaming (music or TV) is just a new distribution and pricing mechanism for the same product. For Google, social media is a fundamentally different product to search. You can argue that they are both ways of 'finding things' but there are still huge fundamental differences.

‘Search’ isn't a product by Google, user impressions are.

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

radley wrote: post #9

Odd way to say thanks to Google for providing open source Android OS to build out their platform.

Google didn't really "provide" it. By open sourcing it, anyone can use it, Amazon has no reason to thank them. On the contrary, Google has used the "incompatible" excuse to refuse to let Kindle users have access to Google Apps.

I think Amazon is fighting back with their strength (Amazon.com) against device platforms that use similar tactics but are much larger in the device market.

Whether it's a good idea, that's questionable. Google is violating antitrust law, but by doing this... so is Amazon.

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

zaphar wrote: post #179
guelo wrote: post #125

After considering a Chromecast and an Apple TV I went with Roku because the main services I want are Amazon Prime Video and Netflix. If Apple and Google are playing hardball against Amazon video this move only makes sense in a tit for tat battle.

How do get Apple and Google as the ones playing hardball here? Amazon is the aggressor here not Apple or Google.

If Amazon is the aggressor, why isn't Play Movies or the Chromecast app available on the Amazon Appstore? Surely Amazon would've liked Kindles to work with Chromecast.

I think you're missing the reason for this fight.

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