Could Amazon similarly ban certain competitors from using EC2? Like Netflix...
Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices
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> They are destroying their most valuable component of their brand, for a relatively weak one (Prime Video). This is why it almost seems like Amazon's Google+ moment: one underperforming product area somehow manages to convince leadership to change the company's underlying principles in its advantage to the long-term detriment of overall brand perception. Edit: 32 points in 19 mins for this comment. I really hope som…
This is more about Roku vs Google & Apple than Amazon vs Google & Apple. Roku has been the market leader by far up until 2015. One problem is that Amazon is now inviting consumers to open a direct relationship with Google or Apple. If a user makes a purchase of an Apple TV or Chromecast directly, Google or Apple now know exactly who they are. Generally speaking, making it hard or cutting off sales channels for specif…
I have a Roku, and I bought it for the exact reason that they don't (at least from what I can tell) have their own streaming service. I wanted a device where the makers have a direct stake in making the best experience for all streaming services possible, and there are no second class citizens.
I didn't want a device coming from a company participating in multi-sided markets. It just ends up with an internal conflict of interest and it's always not clear to the customer what side is the win.
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I'm one of those souls, and really like both the Kindle Fire and Fire TV I have. This move has really soured them to me though - Amazon have a great product in Prime Video and their Fire lineup, a product which doesn't need these sort of shady tactics.
I'm interested in why you consider it shady for a retailer not to sell a product. I don't see Google or Apple selling products from anyone but themselves (mostly. Apple does sell a few accessories and Google has some pure editions which they have a hand in). Pick any retailer, and there are brands and products they don't sell. I could see it being shady if you were talking about denying people access to things they n…
But as an Apple user, I already know they are hypocritical control freaks who don't respect their users.
But this is literally the first time that I've seen Amazon play that way. So it may not be different from any other retailer, it's different from how Amazon used to be. (Or at least was perceived to be, which amounts to the same thing.)
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"Over the last three years, Prime Video has become an important part of Prime," Amazon said in the e-mail. "It’s important that the streaming media players we sell interact well with Prime Video in order to avoid customer confusion." Then make your damn Video application work with the Nexus Player.
It would be so easy for Amazon to support Chromecast. Instead they're losing me as a Prime customer.
I don't get it.
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#466Have to love Gruber's snarky take on it: "LOOKS LIKE IT’S TIME FOR THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO INVESTIGATE APPLE AGAIN"
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#467Google and Apple should pull the Amazon Video app from their app stores. That would settle this in about 30 minutes...
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#468I just want to recommend Alpha House [0], a political comedy about Republican senators created by Garry Trudeau (Doonesbury) with lots of great cameos. Its original/exclusive content and the kind of thing that might help Amazon, unlike this dumb maneuver.
YouTube has a trailer (irony?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iXYgtIYCTg
Bill (fucking) Murray does guest bits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa4jvMBjC8M
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Totally agree. They are destroying their most valuable component of their brand, for a relatively weak one (Prime Video). I have Prime and prefer Netflix, because Prime Video still doesn't have a great selection.
> They are destroying their most valuable component of their brand, for a relatively weak one (Prime Video). This is why it almost seems like Amazon's Google+ moment: one underperforming product area somehow manages to convince leadership to change the company's underlying principles in its advantage to the long-term detriment of overall brand perception. Edit: 32 points in 19 mins for this comment. I really hope som…
Actually, no. This seems more like when Apple stopped allowing Kindle books to be sold through an iPhone:
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-you-cant-buy-kindle-books...
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You are free to start up your own competing platform if you don't like how one is run. See reddit/voat. I'm not sure how creating (more) laws that govern how businesses are run will somehow result in more freedom?
And how successful was Voat? http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/07/22/freedom-on-the-centrali...
I don't think the success/failure of that specific venture has anything to do with the argument I made, but ok?