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I'll be honest here, the 43 students is a tragedy that got, unfortunately, badly politicized and should not be taken seriously anymore. The official demand by the people behind that political movement is "we want them back alive", but since when a government has been able to bring dead people back to life? The real issue behind this tragedy is that drug dealers are infiltrated in the government and military forces, a…
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Make sure to reverse all applicable portions of the argument, or it won't make sense (and even then it's not necessary that the reverse be true for the argument to be true). It's more akin to a friend who has a terrible job spending a few days working at a good job and realizing their job is terrible (to keep it reversed), or like a friend that has a good job but thinks it's terrible spending a few days actually work…
No, because the original view was still of something bad (corrupt first world governments). They aren't as bad as something else (corrupt second/third world governments), but they aren't good. So using jobs, it is like having a job where you have to often pull 60 hours weeks and then having to spend a few days helping a friend pulling 80 hour weeks (with same compensation). Even then, the 60 hour weeks being the norm…
And to be clear, I don't think the cure for thinking that "(insert first world country) is absolutely terrible" is now good, just that it's relatively better than the initial assessment.
To get back to your original response, it's like telling your happy friend they shouldn't be absolutely content because yes, there are people out there that are doing better financially (assuming you are willing to equate financial success to happiness). It won't make them happier, but it will make their outlook more realistic (which isn't always a good thing). But again, reversing the statement like that doesn't preserve it's logical attributes. e.g. If A implies B, you can't infer that B implies A..
I'll be honest here, the 43 students is a tragedy that got, unfortunately, badly politicized and should not be taken seriously anymore. The official demand by the people behind that political movement is "we want them back alive", but since when a government has been able to bring dead people back to life? The real issue behind this tragedy is that drug dealers are infiltrated in the government and military forces, a…
I think the official demand is intentionally absurd because the situation is absurd as well. Think about it: some students were "disappeared" and then the government tries to perform a Jedi mind trick on everybody? The scary part is that they (the state) are befuddled because the mind trick has always worked.
The tragedy of the 43 is hardly unique on it's own. The political consequences of it is what makes it interesting, important and –as the article states– historic.
IMHO: "we want them alive", is another way of saying: "we want blood for blood".
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>> The sad part is how cheaply the lives of these young people, including the future school teachers of this part of Mexico, were thrown away. This is what gets me about Mexico. There's simply no value to human life there anymore. It's so depressing seeing what's happening there. The corruption is so deep and so ingrained in their culture, I can't even fathom how they will ever get better.
How can it get better: Legalize drugs and drug trafficking. It's not a perfect solution, but it would take away much of the reason for the narco-gangs existence; as well as the corruption of the government/police/military.
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That's bullshit (about being safe every where unless doing shady business) as an example I was almost abducted while waiting for my bus in the bus terminal. I know of people missing who's only doing was driving thru a highway to go somewhere else. This idea that only Bad People doing Bad Things™ are in risk here is dumb.
I lived in Mexico for almost 30 years. The only time i got robbed was in Los Angeles as someone broke my car window to get a purse. => http://www.howsafeismexico.com/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_San_Fernando_massacre#A... One of the most horrific things I've ever read.
Ex.: He seems to have witnessed events that happened simultaneously in different locations, while at the same time being one of the victims himself. Also, he seems to have been able to intuit various people's intentions and reactions as if he could read their minds.
> Dr. José Luis Torero, an internationally recognized fire-investigation expert, was hired by the GIEI to conduct an independent examination into the incineration scenario. Torero, a Peruvian who participated in the forensic investigations of the World Trade Center attacks, has a Ph.D. from the University of California, Berkeley, and was previously a professor of fire security at the University of Edinburgh. He currently heads the School of Civil Engineering at the University of Queensland, Australia. The incineration of forty-three bodies in an open-air terrain like that of the Cocula dump, Torero concluded, would have required some thirty-three tons of wood or fourteen tons of pneumatic tires, along with the same amount of diesel fuel; the fire would have had to burn for sixty hours, not the twelve that the P.G.R. claimed it had, based on the confessions of captured Guerreros Unidos sicarios. The smoke from such a fire would have risen nearly a thousand feet into the sky and would have been visible for miles around; no such pillar of smoke was spotted, or even captured by satellite imagery.
The pro-government media is pushing back that its just one scientist's opinion, which is at odds with the opinion of scientists at UNAM (national university of mexico) who participated in the government investigation and concluded that the missing students _were_ incinerated.
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How can it get better: Legalize drugs and drug trafficking. It's not a perfect solution, but it would take away much of the reason for the narco-gangs existence; as well as the corruption of the government/police/military.
I think it's too late for that to be a solution for crime. What would these criminal groups do if they lose their drug revenue stream? Go and find a job? I doubt it. They'll just diversify their criminal activities.
A point of controversy is whether or not the 43 students were incinerated. The indedentent experts (GIEI) report insist that it was impossible: > Dr. José Luis Torero, an internationally recognized fire-investigation expert, was hired by the GIEI to conduct an independent examination into the incineration scenario. Torero, a Peruvian who participated in the forensic investigations of the World Trade Center attacks, h…
If the facts says that burning 43 bodies would require more fuel than what could be moved in secret to the place, and would leave unmistakable traces that are simply missing, that's what the facts say. Period. The UNAM scientist can claim that the Earth is flat... it is not as if their paycheck don't ultimately come from the same people that is trying very hard to cover up the whole affair.
I'll be honest here, the 43 students is a tragedy that got, unfortunately, badly politicized and should not be taken seriously anymore. The official demand by the people behind that political movement is "we want them back alive", but since when a government has been able to bring dead people back to life? The real issue behind this tragedy is that drug dealers are infiltrated in the government and military forces, a…
They deny the fact that the students are actually dead.