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Re: Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

#182

They refuse to make the Prime Video app available on the Play Store, they refuse to add Chromecast support, and now they refuse to even sell Chromecast because of their own decision to not support it? I've just canceled my Prime subscription and I hope a few others do as well.

I thought the reason the video app wasn't in the Play store was due to them having to give Google a cut of every sale if they did that?

That's iOS, not Android. And even on iOS, Amazon has a video app for viewing videos, though you can't buy or rent directly inside the app:

https://itunes.apple.com/app/amazon-video/id545519333

Re: Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

#183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It came to a close a long time ago. Amazon refuses to sell many legal products, eg caffeine powder and anything with the confederate flag.

There is a difference between refusing to sell things you think are unethical even if you disagree with the reasoning vs. refusing to sell things for baldly anti-competitive reasons

It isn't about ethics, it is about appealing to the masses under a very shallow guise of ethics. That might not change your point much, but for me personally, it leaves a more bitter taste in my mouth.

Re: Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

#184
post #27

>"Over the last three years, Prime Video has become an important part of Prime," Amazon said in the e-mail. "It’s important that the streaming media players we sell interact well with Prime Video in order to avoid customer confusion." Google and Apple now both have open SDK's for creating streaming apps for their devices. Isn't the the fact these devices don't "interact well with Prime Video" entirely Amazon's fault?

My guess is that this restriction will not apply to the latest Apple TV hardware when it ships.

Re: Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

#185
post #28

There should be laws that force anyone who owns a platform without any perfect replacements (which includes all two-sided markets) to allow any legal and non-fraudulent content, products, businesses or people on it at non-discriminatory costs. Amazon should be forced allow selling anything legal, Apple should be forced to allow any legal apps, Facebook should not be allowed to ban people, Paypal should not be allowed…

We don't need a law. The public backlash from customers (see: this entire thread) is going to be more than enough to get the job done.

Re: Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

#186

I don't think this move is in Amazon's best interests long term. Their competitive edge with Prime is that I go to them first because I assume they'll have what I want, at a fair price and the highest level of convenience. If they are no longer the "Everything Store" then they won't be where I go to for everything...

I bet they have studied and considered this angle extensively before announcing this decision.

Re: Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

#187

They refuse to make the Prime Video app available on the Play Store, they refuse to add Chromecast support, and now they refuse to even sell Chromecast because of their own decision to not support it? I've just canceled my Prime subscription and I hope a few others do as well.

I thought the reason the video app wasn't in the Play store was due to them having to give Google a cut of every sale if they did that?

I think you're confusing Google with Apple. The Play Store's policies are much more reasonable, and allow third party payment processors for purchasing digital items that can be consumed outside of the app itself. In fact, here's a third party video store on the Play Store [1], and here's Amazon's own Prime Music app [2].

[1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.vudu.a... [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.mp3

Re: Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

#189
post #3

This is gold: "It’s important that the streaming media players we sell interact well with Prime Video in order to avoid customer confusion."

The new AppleTV has an App Store. Does this mean Amazon can't or won't create an app for Prime Video for the AppleTV? (Can't or won't, either answer would be telling.)

The new Apple TV hasn't shipped yet, but my guess is that this restriction will not apply to it - it is highly likely Amazon is working on an app for it and will have it available at release time, or shortly thereafter.

Re: Amazon Will Ban Sale of Apple, Google Video-Streaming Devices

#190
post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are destroying their most valuable component of their brand, for a relatively weak one (Prime Video). This is why it almost seems like Amazon's Google+ moment: one underperforming product area somehow manages to convince leadership to change the company's underlying principles in its advantage to the long-term detriment of overall brand perception. Edit: 32 points in 19 mins for this comment. I really hope som…

This is a really good point. One difference here is that Amazon can quietly go back on their decision if it doesn't work and they see people aren't viewing the Apple TV, Chromecast and Fire as substitutes- since it is just a few listings. Google integrated everything with Google+ the vestiges are still all around.

For example, it still isn't possible to create a YouTube channel without Google Plus.
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