Can't wait till this happens in North America. I hope we realize shorter work days and basic income in the next couple of decades. Then we will truly have a golden age.
I think the US should focus on more paid vacations days for starters.
Some companies in Sweden are testing a six-hour work day
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
In all honesty, many knowledge worker jobs in the US are already un-clocked. Essentially, the company has an expectation that a job gets done and the employee has an expectation that they'll generally speaking be present at the office roughly during core hours. The unspoken agreement is that this ends up being roughly 40 hours per week, with concessions made on the employee's part when things get tough and on the emp…
So ultimately what hours do most tech/knowledge companies work in the US? 9-5? 9-6? I've also heard stories of 9-9 or worse but wonder how much is startup myth.
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#83I would like to try out a 10h workday with 4days/week and a 3 day weekend. Some studies say a 3 day weekend makes you happier and more productive.
why 10h? go ahead with 4 days but keep 8h.
2. Employees don't want to take a 20% cut to their salary
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#86As a swede I think the title is highly misleading. Sweden is not shifting to a 6-hour workday. Sure there are a few experiments but the baseline is that sweden (which has a huge public sector) cannot afford it without raising taxes further. The current forecasts for the future indicates that taxes has to be raised a lot just to maintain the current standard. I would be very surprised if the 6 hour workday would be pr…
As an American, I'm interested in knowing why it would require Sweden to raise taxes. Since you mentioned a huge public sector, is it a case of needing extra workers to work shifts so that pubic services are run at the usual hours? I imagine private companies would be able to get away with it, as long as all their competitors also switch to six-hour workdays.
Average wage goes down, but more people have jobs.
However, due to progressive tax system, that leads so less tax being earned (two people earning $x each pay less than one person who earns $2x and another who earns nothing).
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
He(?) said: > Sure there are a few experiments but the baseline is that sweden (which has a huge public sector) cannot afford it without raising taxes further. The general idea is that while you might just kick office workers out the door 2 hours early, and not see a drop in what the actually get done (and there are a lot of office workers in the public sector) - in other areas, notably healthcare (and also Miletary,…
Why would you pay them the same? Hire 14% more workers, work them 35h instead of 40h, and pay them 14% less each. Costs the same, doesn't it?
Let's hope it's not the case.
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#88I've found that working 8 or 9 months during the year then taking 3 or 4 months to look for the next contract or FT job helps me to re-sync and avoid burn-out (at least, I don't think I'm burned out - that's a good sign right!).
Maybe a personal year-income-threshold would be a good idea. Once that's earned, just relax. Makes more sense in countries with progressive income tax rate.
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#90The majority of people have children. Sucks for you, but I'd rather it suck for you and the rest of the few asshole asocial hermits, than suck for all of us. Though if you like money so much, maybe we could pass in a law that you can trade in your fertility for a tax cut.