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OS X El Capitan on the Mac App Store

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Re: OS X El Capitan on the Mac App Store

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Post by click170 »

on_ wrote: post #90
outworlder wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is your filesystem, but these are system files. Is it really important to you to be able to muck around the OS? If it is, then you go find a way to disable the protections. Windows also has the System Integrity Protection equivalent.

Yes. I am disabling/removing shitty bloatware and removing apple phone home gor privacy.

I share your sentiment towards privacy, I guard mine fiercely as well.

If I may say so though, I think you're coming at this the wrong way.

Trying to disable every component in the OS that phones home simply doesn't scale, may I suggest you explore gateway firewall devices such as PFSense, or the free version of Sophos' UTM if you prefer a more polished UI?

I use a Sophos UTM at home and I can see (and block) every request that my Macs use to try to phone home, with HTTP, HTTPS or regular network traffic.

I also use the Always-On VPN on my phone to apply ad blocking at the firewall level which protects my phone as well.

Very much worth checking out. Gateway protections are the only way to go these days IMO.

Edit: Just to add, at first glance I find the SIP system to be rather anti-user, but people in this thread are right. It's valuable protection to have in place. If I used a Mac at home I would only disable this to make the changes I needed before turning it back on again.

Edit to clarify: I use a Mac, but only has a HTPC and not as a desktop or workstation, and all outbound traffic is blocked by default.

Re: OS X El Capitan on the Mac App Store

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Post by spacehome »

I don't know how anybody can look at the bugs and fixes that continually plague .0 versions of Apple's OS software across their devices and jump at the chance to try it out. It now feels like you need to wait a minimum of 3 months before even considering installing a .0 (or .1 or .2) version of their software. It's a shame, too. I'm old enough to remember when Apple's OS was mostly rock-solid.

Re: OS X El Capitan on the Mac App Store

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Post by M4v3R »

spython wrote: post #23
filsmick wrote: post #18

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What do you use instead? You navigate exclusively from your terminal?

I've used Forklift for years, very stable: http://www.binarynights.com/forklift/

Actually, Forklift is broken in El Capitan, at least for me. It just freezes after few seconds upon launching and then fails to recognize user input, or lags terribly.

Re: OS X El Capitan on the Mac App Store

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Post by sandyarmstrong »

spacehome wrote: post #102

I don't know how anybody can look at the bugs and fixes that continually plague .0 versions of Apple's OS software across their devices and jump at the chance to try it out. It now feels like you need to wait a minimum of 3 months before even considering installing a .0 (or .1 or .2) version of their software. It's a shame, too. I'm old enough to remember when Apple's OS was mostly rock-solid.

> I'm old enough to remember when Apple's OS was mostly rock-solid.

What OS are you talking about? OS X has always had buggy .0 releases. If anything it's gotten better over time, though I still agree with waiting for a .1 or .2.

If you mean Mac OS or earlier, then I wouldn't know. I was young and we always just kept whatever came on the computer.

Re: OS X El Capitan on the Mac App Store

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Post by spacehome »

sandyarmstrong wrote: post #104
spacehome wrote: post #102

I don't know how anybody can look at the bugs and fixes that continually plague .0 versions of Apple's OS software across their devices and jump at the chance to try it out. It now feels like you need to wait a minimum of 3 months before even considering installing a .0 (or .1 or .2) version of their software. It's a shame, too. I'm old enough to remember when Apple's OS was mostly rock-solid.

> I'm old enough to remember when Apple's OS was mostly rock-solid. What OS are you talking about? OS X has always had buggy .0 releases. If anything it's gotten better over time, though I still agree with waiting for a .1 or .2. If you mean Mac OS or earlier, then I wouldn't know. I was young and we always just kept whatever came on the computer.

10.4 was pretty good.

My point about the .1 and .2 releases were that they're buggy, too. I look into my crystal ball and predict that 10.11.1 and 10.11.2 will both have serious issues (though not as much as 10.11.0. You really have to wait for the waves of bugfix releases after a point release to end before it's safe for human consumption.

Re: OS X El Capitan on the Mac App Store

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Post by [deleted] »

smallarmsdealer wrote: post #95
Rafert wrote: post #27

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So, basically the same advice applies as with the upgrade to Yosemite: move /usr/local to somewhere like ~/local before upgrading, and move it back after. It's worth mentioning that after the upgrade you might run into permissions problems: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/share/doc/h... You might want to run `brew update` before updating, so `brew doctor` can help you troubleshoot issues afterwards.

Good advice, I plan on running a quick rsync: rsync -rtvpl /usr/local ~/usr.local.backup

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Re: OS X El Capitan on the Mac App Store

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Post by cpeterso »

Rafert wrote: post #27
bdcravens wrote: post #21

If time is an issue, consider doing a wipe and fresh install then upgrade instead of upgrade in place. Apparently if you have Homebrew it gets stuck at 2 minutes, potentially for several hours.

So, basically the same advice applies as with the upgrade to Yosemite: move /usr/local to somewhere like ~/local before upgrading, and move it back after. It's worth mentioning that after the upgrade you might run into permissions problems: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/share/doc/h... You might want to run `brew update` before updating, so `brew doctor` can help you troubleshoot issues afterwards.

Does OS X place any of its own files in /usr/local?
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