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Re: Meet Model X

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Post by ohitsdom »

philwelch wrote: post #63

I guess Tesla isn't going to get around to making a car that normal people can afford anytime soon, then.

They are following their roadmap, the Model 3 is next at $35k. Not cheap, but certainly affordable for many. Average new car price is $33,560 [0], so it's pretty amazing if they can hit that price with an electric vehicle. Also amazing considering Tesla shipped their first car in 2008 and have completely rejuvenated the electric car market.

[0] http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/05/04/new-car-...

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Post by jobead »

caio1982 wrote: post #103

I love the falcon wing doors but what about when it's raining? That might be a stupid question but...

Actually, I was most curious about what happens when two Model X's park next to each other.

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Post by jedberg »

TrevorJ wrote: post #248
jedberg wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you live in Germany you're not really ever going to hit that top speed. You will however have ample chance to take advantage of the acceleration.

Sure you can, just take it to a track day at local race track.

Sure, but I start my car from a standstill many times a day. I take my car to a test track -- once every five years?

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Post by baq »

TrevorJ wrote: post #248
jedberg wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you live in Germany you're not really ever going to hit that top speed. You will however have ample chance to take advantage of the acceleration.

Sure you can, just take it to a track day at local race track.

i wouldn't be bringing a 2.5 ton car onto a track, but i also can't afford it, so my opinion probably doesn't matter anyway.

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Post by retbull »

ohitsdom wrote: post #253
memonkey wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Full disclaimer, I work for a somewhat prestigious air filtration company. I agree the wording is a little bit on the strange side. However, if they are saying that it's a "bioweapon defense mode" they should probably be saying that they can catch 0.03 microns as opposed to 0.3 microns. That is virus level small. There should also be several filters in there, a large particulate filter for the big stuff, an activated…

> UV ends up not being worth it because you'd have to replace the bulb almost on a monthly basis. I have a UV system on my home A/C, and the bulb usually burns out once every two years (and it's always on). I'd imagine this would be greatly extended if in place in a car when it's not always on. Am I missing something?

I thought that turning lights on and off is most of what causes damage to them.

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

mikeash wrote: post #260
jkestner wrote: post #102

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Cool thing is, they could actually claim "safe" in a bigger sense of the word that most companies do not. Zero emissions is safer for everyone over the long term. I'd want to see a cradle-to-grave carbon footprint analysis first, though.

Personally, I'm much more impressed by the crash safety than stuff like emissions. It's hard to get people to care about emissions. But almost everyone has been in a car crash at some point. Most people know someone who has been killed or severely injured in one. What makes Tesla remarkable is that their EVs aren't just good EVs, they're good cars . Previous EVs were basically sold as, "Well, this is kind of a crap c…

Spoken like a person who didn't live through the 70s. The roads were a blue haze, with choking smog over most cities. Think Beijing today.

Once emissions were controlled to a comfortable level, then further improvements became marginally less important. That's natural and probably correct. I imagine Federal regulations are too stringent now; that's part of why car companies are resisting.

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Post by ohitsdom »

doczoidberg wrote: post #168

Can anyone explain me why Tesla as a silicon valley company is lagging behind in autonomus driving? BMW, Daimler and many more have already working things in much cheaper cars. Edit: can't understand the down voting. Criticizing Tesla isn't endorsed here?

Making a good electric car is a HUGE challenge (see: the entire history of electric cars pre-Tesla). They need to keep their focus there. Once Tesla is delivering on the affordable mass market Model 3, then I think they'll turn up their focus on self-driving.

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

anon4 wrote: post #123
6stringmerc wrote: post #108

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Good point. Maybe there's an asterisk in there somewhere stating this claim is predicated on successfully launching used batteries into space and having them crash into a dump on the moon.

Or building that giant solar array around Mercury that beams energy for free to every Tesla car.

Build it around Earth of course. Get about 10X the solar density outside atmosphere. Even with 50% losses due to translating to/from laser, still magnitudes more efficient than ground-bases. And Mercury-based orders of magnitude harder yet!

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Post by jobead »

josefresco wrote: post #150
chuckcode wrote: post #120

All it takes is a billionaire genius with twin kids and a car company to finally engineer a real solution to the hassle of having room to put kids in the car seats. I sure hope some of these ideas come in a slightly more affordable version. Amazing how many of the innovations are just everyday things like crash safety, air quality, blind holster your phone, trailer hitch that doesn't suck, and easier to get kids in t…

In all seriousness, how does the Model X improve buckling your kids over a sliding minivan door? Never had trouble with this, I've owned a car, truck, SUV and minivan with young kids. Biggest headache? The kids buckling themselves. The seatbelt always locks (they pull too fast), the buckles get smushed into the seat bench, and before you know it I have exited the car, just to help them put it altogether.

Out of curiosity, how tall are you? I think he said a big part of the problem with minivans is that you can hit your head on the roof while trying to lean in to snap the buckles. With the falcon wing doors, the roof flips up too. Obviously if you are blessed to be average height, that may not be a problem for you.

As a tall person, I am excited that Elon is tall and getting them to consider the problems of not being average height =)

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Post by raisedbyninjas »

ctdonath wrote: post #45
DEinspanjer wrote: post #6

Okay.. I'm a Model S owner and I love Tesla and I chuckled at the whole Insane mode and gave a bit of an amused snort at Ludicrous mode. This, however, really makes me wonder WTH is going on there: HEPA Air Filters "There are three modes: circulate with outside air, re-circulate inside air and a bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants ." EDIT: Very fair points about…

Sounds silly to most, but there are situations where you don't want unfiltered outside air leaking in. If "seriously filtered cabin air supply" is relatively easy to add, there's no downside to adding it. Here around Atlanta, the pollen count can exceed 5000 for weeks (and 500 is considered "extremely high"); a good filter would be dearly appreciated by many. For an interesting comparison re: "bioweapon", consider th…

It's not silly at all. I wish I had this everyday that I'm sitting in traffic. My car has multiple climate control modes that default with the vent open. Some heater modes override the vent button and force me to use outside air. I actually know what the outside humidity is and the amount of car exhaust I want to suffer. But apparently that doesn't matter to Mazda.
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