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Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
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Re: Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
#72I second Play Framework. Have used it and Scala is a very nice language to learn. If I had invested in so much into the JVM, Play Framework would be it. But, if it's just a simple CRUD app, and if you had a choice, I'd recommend you to give Ruby on Rails a try. Hope this helps!
If you're looking for a Play-like framework but that's just Java, not Scala, you could check out Ninja Framework. I tried it for a simple CRUD app last year and it worked out pretty well. It's not as widely used or as maintained as Play though (+Play does have a Java API).
Re: Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
#73Grails/groovy with postgre. Grails is so ridiculously simple to set up and code with... you can literally parse JSON out of a request and map it to an object with "Object yourObject = request.getJSON". Then you can save it with another line like "yourObject.save()".
Re: Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
#74I would not start with technology stack and build around them. You look at your use cases and build out. Pick your frameworks and databases judiciously and as late as possible. Read: https://blog.8thlight.com/uncle-bob/2012/05/15/NODB.html Read: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Growing-Object-Oriented-Software-Gui... [EDIT] Removed the unnecessary/unhelpful opening statement.
Just because uncle Bob says something doesn't mean it's true. Frameworks and stacks provide templates for building CRUD apps. Building CRUD apps (read: database skins) isn't a big technological challenge most of the times anyway. So picking a stack that abstracts most of it for you could be a great help to only focus on the parts you care about. Not every project requires astronaut architecture and grand design. Half…
It seems to me that you intentionally misrepresent the argument to make it easier to attack. No one is claiming that Uncle Bob is always right or that an "astronaut architecture" is the correct design.
On a different note, I would also recommend to not start picking the framework or stack: Instead I would start by creating a couple of basic classes that represent the business logic.
I would also write tests for those classes. Furthermore I would probably introduce some repository classes that would interface with the database. Lastly I would try to find a library that handles HTTP routing - if the CRUD app was meant to have an HTTP I/O channel.
Not everyone wants to "go fast and break things" or blindly let their codebase depend on a third-party framework. This is usually what ends up happening when you don't think about architecture.
Check out the most popular Angular posts on HN this year [1]. Notice a trend?
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Re: Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
#75I don't see how this question is answerable in any meaningful way in its current form. You're going to get a list of basically every JVM framework there is, and you speak nothing of your front-end requirements.
Re: Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
#76jruby / rails
Re: Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
#77I don't see how this question is answerable in any meaningful way in its current form. You're going to get a list of basically every JVM framework there is, and you speak nothing of your front-end requirements.
I admit OP's question is a little vague, but as someone who hasn't touched Java in a while, I appreciate it. True, the answers are just as vague as the questions, but to someone who is familiar with Java and not the frameworks for web development it does enumerate the options that can be explored
Re: Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
#78I'm going to go with a unique answer here:
Java + MySQL, using these awesome libraries
- Bowser (webapp): https://github.com/mirraj2/bowser
- EZDB (MySQL wrapper): https://github.com/mirraj2/ezdb
- Ox (IO and Json): https://github.com/mirraj2/Ox
These bad boys make writing Java wonderful again.
Re: Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
#79Grails/groovy with postgre. Grails is so ridiculously simple to set up and code with... you can literally parse JSON out of a request and map it to an object with "Object yourObject = request.getJSON". Then you can save it with another line like "yourObject.save()".
I agree, building crud in grails is really fast. I'm just sorry grails is not so much adopted.
Re: Ask HN: What stack would you use to build a CRUD web app on the JVM today?
#80I second Play Framework. Have used it and Scala is a very nice language to learn. If I had invested in so much into the JVM, Play Framework would be it. But, if it's just a simple CRUD app, and if you had a choice, I'd recommend you to give Ruby on Rails a try. Hope this helps!
Glad to see support for Scala/Play sprinkled throughout the responses here. I love working with both. Now I'm considering taking the next step and adopting ScalaJS for some small internal apps.