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Re: Meet Model X

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Post by jonknee » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:32 PM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #27

di wrote: post #4

> $132,000 for the P90D Signature and $142,000 for the P90D Founder edition [0] [0]: http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/30/tesla-model-x-electric-su...

That is pretty amazing pricing. Most premium families would be looking to the Land Rover Evoque ($41K), BMW X5 ($54K) etc But Tesla is pricing it not to compete with the baseline Porsche Cayenne ($58K) but around the Cayenne Turbo S level ($157K). I guess they aren't planning on building a lot of them.

The Land Rover Evoque, BMW X5 and Porsche Cayenne are all 5 person SUVs that aren't in the same class as the Model X (7 person).

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by myko » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:33 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #86

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #68

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They are aiming this car at Chinese buyers I bet. The last mode would definitely get lots of use in Beijing.

A "green" car feeding on polluted markets. Touching.

It makes sense to me to target the areas that are worse off with regards to pollution first with green technology. Am I missing something?

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by coldpie » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:36 PM UTC

ghaff wrote: post #77

josefresco wrote: post #28

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It can tow 5000 pounds - maybe stick the kayak on a small trailer? Or, if you can afford a Model X, buy a used Subaru just for your kayak.

Trailers are a real pain to deal with. A lot of SUVs really aren't but this is an extreme case. I find it a bit ridiculous to call a vehicle an "SUV" if you can't put a roof-rack on.

Eh, SUVs are the new minivan and everyone knows it. If you really want to strap a kayak to the top, buy a car with a roof rack regardless of what it's called.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by chiph » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:36 PM UTC

BYWallace wrote: post #30

chillydawg wrote: post #20

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Except how is it generating positive internal pressure without storing compressed air somewhere?

I believe it's because pumping filtered air from the outside faster than it can escape from the cabin creates the positive internal pressure.

Modern cars have a cabin air outlet. It's usually hidden in the trunk or the back of the cab (on trucks), and vents somewhere like behind the plastic bumper. There are rubber flaps on them to ensure one-way air travel and keep water out. Perhaps Tesla's has a motor on theirs to keep it closed against the increased cabin pressure.

From a 2015 Honda Accord, it's #35: http://imgur.com/QsJexwI

Side-effect of this part - manufacturers tune them so that the doors produce a solid sound when closed.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by nmrm2 » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:36 PM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #84

dagw wrote: post #71

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Safest and fastest seem possible, but I'm rather doubting its off road capabilities. Unless of course being capable of driving off road isn't something we expect from an SUV these days.

You can tell from the photos you won't be taking this off road. It's more akin to a people mover with the 7 seat option and the ground clearance being limited. If you look at the most popular SUVs i.e. BMW X3/5, Mercedes M, Land Rover they have a lineage in proper 4WDs. But let's be honest almost nobody who drives an SUV actually takes it off road.

Right. SUVs in this category are going after the need-a-van-but-want-a-sportcar market.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by varjag » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:36 PM UTC

DannoHung wrote: post #42

BYWallace wrote: post #30

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I believe it's because pumping filtered air from the outside faster than it can escape from the cabin creates the positive internal pressure.

How is that a bioweapon defense then? Do HEPA filters work against bioweapons?

Not sure about particular type of filter, but CBRN countermeasures found on tanks, APCs and such are also basically air filtration with positive internal pressure.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by joezydeco » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:37 PM UTC

liotier wrote: post #15

DEinspanjer wrote: post #6

Okay.. I'm a Model S owner and I love Tesla and I chuckled at the whole Insane mode and gave a bit of an amused snort at Ludicrous mode. This, however, really makes me wonder WTH is going on there: HEPA Air Filters "There are three modes: circulate with outside air, re-circulate inside air and a bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants ." EDIT: Very fair points about…

> bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants Ever drove past a skunk corpse ? Only happened to me a few times when I traveled in the USA - still have PTSD...

A skunk sprayed the neighbor's dog in my front yard the other night. You got off light.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by ju-st » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:38 PM UTC

thecrumb wrote: post #21

If it's an "SUV" where do I strap my kayak and bike? Mercedes did it better in 1955.

The meaning of "SUV" has changed in the las years.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by IkmoIkmo » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:38 PM UTC

jessaustin wrote: post #90

comboy wrote: post #82

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Ski resorts already need access to some heavy electricity (ski lifts), I wouldn't be surprised if they would start offering chargers for electric cars in the near future.

Umm, jetskis aren't really for use at ski resorts.

yet

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by tkinom » Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 2:40 PM UTC

spyder wrote: post #93

DEinspanjer wrote: post #6

Okay.. I'm a Model S owner and I love Tesla and I chuckled at the whole Insane mode and gave a bit of an amused snort at Ludicrous mode. This, however, really makes me wonder WTH is going on there: HEPA Air Filters "There are three modes: circulate with outside air, re-circulate inside air and a bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants ." EDIT: Very fair points about…

Maybe Elon Musk is preparing it for Mars (with the positive pressure) and it will have a hidden "Launch to Mars" button :)

Not Launch.

Elon's next project is a wormhole hyperloop to Mars.