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Re: Meet Model X

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Post by Navarr »

irl_zebra wrote: post #23
poopbutt wrote: post #8

Cool as this is, the only thing that sketches me out is the "automatic braking" feature. If I go to avoid something and it slams on the brakes, isn't that going to totally change my trajectory possibly causing an accident? Or a false positive causing heavy braking which someone could be surprised by and overcorrect for causing an accident?

My Volvo does this. Not sure if it's the same thing, but stops you if you're about to collide with something. I've never experienced it (as I've never yet needed the feature), but have heard good things. Here's a really impressive video of it in action on a semi-truck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ridS396W2BY Counterpoint (with the model I have, unfortunately): http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/self-braking-vo…

I wouldn't consider that a counterpoint. Article goes on to say that the system wasn't on that car and obviously these are supposed to be emergency measures, not relied on.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by jordan0day »

poopbutt wrote: post #8

Cool as this is, the only thing that sketches me out is the "automatic braking" feature. If I go to avoid something and it slams on the brakes, isn't that going to totally change my trajectory possibly causing an accident? Or a false positive causing heavy braking which someone could be surprised by and overcorrect for causing an accident?

You might not be wrong, but your concern seems reminiscent of the fears raised when seatbelts became mandatory: That someone would get into an accident where the car went into a lake or pond, and the seatbelt trapped the occupants inside the sinking car.

That is, it's a legitimate fear, but such a rare occurrence that the benefit of seatbelts far, far outweigh the risk of this sort of uncommon scenario.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by anon4 »

6stringmerc wrote: post #108
jkestner wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool thing is, they could actually claim "safe" in a bigger sense of the word that most companies do not. Zero emissions is safer for everyone over the long term. I'd want to see a cradle-to-grave carbon footprint analysis first, though.

Good point. Maybe there's an asterisk in there somewhere stating this claim is predicated on successfully launching used batteries into space and having them crash into a dump on the moon.

Or building that giant solar array around Mercury that beams energy for free to every Tesla car.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by pookeh »

I don't think I can open those falcon doors when parked inside my garage. Which is a pity because it is damn cold in Canada half the year.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by myth_buster »

anon4 wrote: post #116
caio1982 wrote: post #103

I love the falcon wing doors but what about when it's raining? That might be a stupid question but...

also what about when someone parks too close to you? Malls, for instance, put parking spaces tightly next to each other, so either you park like an asshole diagonally across two of them, or run the risk of someone else parking just a little bit too close to you and then your doors can't open, whereas in a standard vehicle, you'd be able to squeeze in. They should have made them slide laterally like on a minivan.

The site says the minimum distance required is about a foot which is reasonable given that the protruding rear view mirrors would be close to half of that.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by peregrine »

anon4 wrote: post #116
caio1982 wrote: post #103

I love the falcon wing doors but what about when it's raining? That might be a stupid question but...

also what about when someone parks too close to you? Malls, for instance, put parking spaces tightly next to each other, so either you park like an asshole diagonally across two of them, or run the risk of someone else parking just a little bit too close to you and then your doors can't open, whereas in a standard vehicle, you'd be able to squeeze in. They should have made them slide laterally like on a minivan.

Watch the video. They do a demo of this exact situation.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by curiousphil »

irl_zebra wrote: post #23
poopbutt wrote: post #8

Cool as this is, the only thing that sketches me out is the "automatic braking" feature. If I go to avoid something and it slams on the brakes, isn't that going to totally change my trajectory possibly causing an accident? Or a false positive causing heavy braking which someone could be surprised by and overcorrect for causing an accident?

My Volvo does this. Not sure if it's the same thing, but stops you if you're about to collide with something. I've never experienced it (as I've never yet needed the feature), but have heard good things. Here's a really impressive video of it in action on a semi-truck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ridS396W2BY Counterpoint (with the model I have, unfortunately): http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/self-braking-vo…

Volvo claimed that the driver hadn't paid for the pedestrian detection upgrade which costs an extra $3,000. That said, it seems like a feature that shouldn't be confusing as to whether your car has it or not. But then again, its not a feature that non-professionals should be testing/showing off on living beings...

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by lenomad »

FilterSweep wrote: post #79

So with the falcon wing doors you couldn't open up passenger seats in your standard garage. I'd suspect people who could afford this wouldn't have a standard garage anyways though.

Musk actually demoes it opening in a low-height garage. It has two hinges for the door that lets it open at less height.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by mrtron »

poopbutt wrote: post #8

Cool as this is, the only thing that sketches me out is the "automatic braking" feature. If I go to avoid something and it slams on the brakes, isn't that going to totally change my trajectory possibly causing an accident? Or a false positive causing heavy braking which someone could be surprised by and overcorrect for causing an accident?

The automatic braking is as good as the sensors/technology.

My Subaru has a dual camera system and the collision detection is amazing. It has saved me from a very hard braking or collision situation a few times. I haven't had the automatic braking actually kick in but the alert is very helpful.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by lenomad »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #18

Are there any advantages to the gullwing doors compared to sliding doors other than "sliding doors aren't cool"? They say "minivan style sliding doors open at most halfway", but there are plenty of minivan doors that open quite wide.

It should give more clearence for getting into the car; and better access to the third row
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