Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
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Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
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Re: Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
#2"On average, two-thirds of the claimed gains in CO2 emissions and fuel consumption since 2008 have been delivered through manipulating tests"
How deep does this rabbit hole go :( Here in Ireland the motortax for cars newer than 2008 is based on CO2 emissions, if motorists find their tax rising due to cheating by car manufacturers thats an unexpected and direct cost to their wallets.
Re: Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
#3"On average, two-thirds of the claimed gains in CO2 emissions and fuel consumption since 2008 have been delivered through manipulating tests" How deep does this rabbit hole go :( Here in Ireland the motortax for cars newer than 2008 is based on CO2 emissions, if motorists find their tax rising due to cheating by car manufacturers thats an unexpected and direct cost to their wallets.
Europe was really led astray when they were told that diesels were better for the environment, hybrids would have been the way to go.
Re: Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
#4So, any Japanese or American companies doing this as well? Who's next?
Re: Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
#5I went through to the actual report (http://www.transportenvironment.org/sites/te/files/publicati...) and found an infographic (figure 8) that shows some of the methods manufacturers can use to defeat tests.
"Pushing the brake pads fully into the callipers reduces rolling resistance" is apparently one way. That makes me ask the question, why don't we do this already? If it reduces rolling resistance it probably also increases brake-pad life. That'd be a win-win for drivers.
Re: Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
#6Sounds like there are plenty of worms in this particular can waiting to come out.
Re: Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
#7This is the big next step that a lot of people were expecting - where in-depth studies into all of the competitors occurs and it's gradually revealed that this defeat device game has been played by almost everyone in the industry. It'll be interesting to see the repercussions for the automakers, but inevitably this'll end with sweeping legislation changes and reform of the testing protocol and standards.
Re: Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
#8"On average, two-thirds of the claimed gains in CO2 emissions and fuel consumption since 2008 have been delivered through manipulating tests" How deep does this rabbit hole go :( Here in Ireland the motortax for cars newer than 2008 is based on CO2 emissions, if motorists find their tax rising due to cheating by car manufacturers thats an unexpected and direct cost to their wallets.
Or maybe we abolish nonsensical, contrary requirements?
Whoever actaully believed the fuel consumption figures is a fool. You cant have a 1,5t of a car and expect it to use only 5l/100km. That's a good rate for a goddamn motorbike (450ccm,one piston, dont exceed 90 km/h and you might reach 4,5l/100km) Its one fifth of the mass...
Re: Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
#9"On average, two-thirds of the claimed gains in CO2 emissions and fuel consumption since 2008 have been delivered through manipulating tests" How deep does this rabbit hole go :( Here in Ireland the motortax for cars newer than 2008 is based on CO2 emissions, if motorists find their tax rising due to cheating by car manufacturers thats an unexpected and direct cost to their wallets.
Europe was really led astray when they were told that diesels were better for the environment, hybrids would have been the way to go.
Europe has 'bet on diesel' for many years while hybrids have only recently become available.
Re: Study: Some car models consuming around 50% more fuel than official results
#10So, any Japanese or American companies doing this as well? Who's next?
I'm guessing its across the industry. I'm wondering if this is the tip of the iceberg.