Anyone knows which non-core features will be affected by this?
Evernote Food was already shut down (https://blog.evernote.com/blog/2015/09/16/better-brainstorms...) a couple weeks ago.
Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices
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Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices
#322Evernote is a note taking app in 2015. While slack and hipchat are somewhat iconoclastic, they have network affects and boost productivity. Evernote is competing with apple notes, google docs, whatever microsoft has, every password keeping app, a notebook, a text editor and using a blog. This is something that will likely happen to dropbox and box. You provide storage. Simple math will provide you with the cost of st…
Microsoft has OneNote, which might be a good cautionary tale in this area. OneNote was once the king of note taking, like back in 2003, and it's still a great product. But Microsoft focused too much on the Business market, I think, dropping OneNote from the Office Home packages, and that kind of killed it outside of the corp world.
OneNote is a great MS product that they've totally failed to market. My wife uses it extensively; the drawing capture features integrate nicely with the Surface.
Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices
#323I was thinking to get an account (free one), but after reading many "negative" comments I'm rethinking it. Will probably give it a try anyways... At the moment I'm only using it as a FF plugin for "cleaning up" blog posts.
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#324It's worth noting that even after letting 47 people go, they have positions open on their careers page. New CEO trying to make his mark by dealing out a bit of worry to the underlings.
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just for info, the last time we ran stats on which cloud storage our users pick it was: Google Drive 53% Dropbox 4% OneDrive 1% I don't think you're having a problem selling the idea :).
And where did you got that data from? Because where I live dropbox is far and ahead in user-base compared to Google Drive. That's the feeling I'm getting, mind you, I don't have any actual data... But even the apps I (2do, 1Passwd, etc.) use have support for Dropbox while none of them has support for GDrive.
I got that data from our SaaS application that offers storage using those 3 providers. Our target market is much more business over consumers, I suspect the figures look different in the consumer market.
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
how do you export? Last time I checked I could only export individual notes, which is obviously not a working solution given that I have thousands of notes.
In the desktop app, select all notes, click export, or... right click on "Notebooks", select export. It lets you export in ENEX format, which is fully re-importable back to Evernote, or as HTML web pages.
While it reimports everything into Evernote it doesn't keep the notebooks or stacks you've setup.
Really annoying if you're importing in to another account.
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
Automattic make money from Simperium and they provide Simplenote as a freebie to showcase the technology I guess.
That is very helpful. Now their business model makes sense. I wonder why they don't even mention Simperium on their home page? It's not even mentioned under Help. It's a secret? They even have a a perfect opportunity to mention it. E.g. in Simplenote Help they say: Q: How does syncing work? A: All notes are synced between your device ... they automatically and wirelessly show up in the other locations I guess they wa…
>I guess they want us to hypothesize that magical "Data Fairies" do this syncing?
No, they hypothetize that the average user wants a high level description, not to read about servers, incremental sync protocols, etc.
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
I sound like a cynic when I say this, but the root cause of failures like this is a principle fundamental to Evernote: data owned by an application, rather than data accessed by an application. If all your data exists in a file hierachy that you can browse, edit manually, and back up, then you have the safety of relying only on foundational systems for the survival of your data, and the power to use your data as you…
This is reason #1 why I like DEVONthink for the Mac. It uses exactly this model. I'm sure equivalents exist on the other platforms, but I'm not all that familiar. I have been an Evernote Premium user for a long time, and since the company seems to be having a rough time, I recently looked at getting all of my data out of Evernote. What a nightmare . I loved Evernote. I loved the fact that Phil Libin said he wanted it…
I use DEVONthink too for the same reason. The only thing DEVONthink lacks is cross-platform support. It's a pity that it's not available on Linux or Android.
Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices
#329I used to be a customer for a while. Then went with org-mode + git and never looked back.
Interesting. I used both Evernote and DEVONthink on OS X before. Now, I'm storing all my notes in plain text org-files on my Dropbox - but without version control. Do you share your git-repos via Dropbox or somethink like that? Or do you have a git server somewhere else?
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dropbox problem is that it was obviously better several years ago so its user acquisition was easy. Nowadays dropbox needs to convince user of other services that it is better. On paper though, dropbox provides less for more money - that's going to be difficult. I share your opinion - they are better. The reason I know is because I have been a client for years and they never let me down even in weird syncing scenario…
Dropbox is undeniably better. It gets synching right and this is so incredibly important. People should be rooting for Dropbox, not hoping for its demise. Everyone else has screwed up synching and screwing up synching means lost files! Lost photos of loved ones! Lost ideas, lost important documents! Dropbox is worth the price because it gets this right.
>Everyone else has screwed up synching and screwing up synching means lost files! Lost photos of loved ones! Lost ideas, lost important documents! Dropbox is worth the price because it gets this right.
If they rely on Dropbox getting syncing right to not lose "important files, photos of loved ones, ideas and important documents" then they are doing it wrong.
They should backup anyway, and only then trust Dropbox for plain syncing. Dropbox is not backup.