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Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by lepht »

mrmondo wrote: post #102
craigching wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ... markdown support Yes, 1000 times yes! I so wish I could author in Evernote using markdown. Getting any sort of rich text done in a note is extremely cumbersome in Evernote, lists for instance.

Have you submitted it as a feature request to their support? I get the feeling they just don't have enough people asking for it.

Markdown support has been a common feature request for years, with many feature requests in their forums as well as entire blog posts from fairly prominent bloggers – just try googling "Evernote markdown support".

I've had the strong suspicion for a long time now that they simply aren't listening to these sorts of feature requests that don't tie into their enterprise/business focus – at least since about 2013.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by rokhayakebe »

tedunangst wrote: post #137
ma2rten wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That might just mean that they delete all backups when the account gets deleted for privacy reasons.

Depending on the backup tech, that can be kind of difficult. I can't run arbitrary SQL against the database backups I've got stored in tarsnap. Nor against tape, etc. For that matter, isn't the (or one) reason for having a backup so that errant deletes don't obliterate everything?

I was always under the impression that nothing really gets deleted online.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by vskarine »

djhn wrote: post #179

In the last 5 years I've accumulated some 8 000 notes in Evernote, which I would love to move to a safer platform/format in light of recent evidence of data loss and speculation concerning Evernote's longevity. What are the alternatives to organizing this second brain/memory? 50% are 20% complete webpages or complete articles deemed important enough to save a copy for later 10% graphics, annotated images and PDFs 10%…

In my opinion OneNote is by far better than anything else out there.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by twalling »

sandstrom wrote: post #16
tempestn wrote: post #8

> Evernote’s strength is in its core: notes, sync, and search. That’s where we’re going to focus. Well, like many others, I've been wishing Evernote would drop all the auxiliary stuff and focus on their core product. Hopefully that's exactly what will now happen. Evernote has become an absolutely critical part of my life. Even though I use it for business (along with everything else) though, I have no use for the maj…

What is the auxiliary stuff that they've dropped? (or will drop/reduce emphasis on) Genuinely curious. I've noted that they seem to have multiple apps in the AppStore doing similar things.

You know, auxiliary stuff like business socks.

https://www.evernote.com/market/feature/socks-en_CA?sku=SOCK...

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by rokhayakebe »

cyberpanther wrote: post #17
egusa wrote: post #5

businessinsider had a great article on evernote here, "Evernote, the first dead unicorn", which really foreshadowed this: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/evernote-the-first-dead-un...

My prediction, the next dead unicorn: Dropbox They are similar in that they haven't made anything note worthy in a while and their main product is really just a feature of bigger companies apps and services.

DB is too big to fail. They are just everywhere at this point; I have rarely seen a technology that has managed to find itself into every corner of every industry, and be used by professionals at every technical-level. I have experienced the LEAST technical people asking me to use Dropbox. Dropbox is like if Email was owned by one company.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by tajano »

Ezhik wrote: post #147
tajano wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another prediction: Twitter. 2k+ engineers on staff without notable improvements to the core user-facing product in a while. Declining signups, declining engagement. Nobody stepping into the permanent CEO role. I don't see how this ends well.

It's so hard for me to imagine a service like Twitter crashing.

I don't expect it to disappear (not completely, not over night).

But they're burning through $130M+ a quarter and growth is stalling. They don't seem to have leadership with a vision of where to take the company from here.

Twitter still enjoys some cache with celebrities, but how much longer will that hold true?

So how will they stop bleeding? Maybe they'll transform Twitter into something profitable, or maybe they'll look to the 2,000+ engineers, and ask why they need so many.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by Nursie »

curiousjorge wrote: post #98

what's evernote again? I keep hearing about it but never seen it or have used it.

Something that came pre-installed on my last phone and couldn't be removed, and obnoxiously kept updating itself and asking for more permissions.

No idea what it does, that annoyed me too much to ever find out.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by benburton »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #144
wahsd wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Drive is really horrible in comparison to many other services.

Really? How so? I have about 60GB in total stored across Google Drive, OneDrive and DropBox. Other than OneDrive requiring me to login too frequently with the desktop folder syncing app they all work identically. I've yet to have an issue with syncing with any of them after editing documents in multiple machines. I'm not saying you're wrong I just haven't seen what you might be referring to hence why I asked.

This is going to sound stupid, but I think the major problems with Drive are the line height it uses for items within a directory and the fact that it has relatively short file pagination threshold.

I had thought that Drive was confusing, because I would "create" a Doc or a Spreadsheet in the root directory and then go back to look for it and not be able to find it. I created a Spreadsheet, and named it something starting with 'T'. This put it on the 3rd or 4th pagination request to get more files (these requests were ~1-2 seconds slow) in my root directory. But also the line height of all the files in the directory filled up so much vertical space that it felt like I was seeing most of the directory on page 1, even though it had much more content.

When I look at ~/ locally in Finder, Nautilus, etc. the line height is tight and there is no pagination. I can see everything I have access to instantly or within an immediate scroll. When I use Google Drive every file line item takes up a lot of vertical space and I have to page through results. The result is that I can't see everything and I feel as though things are missing, even though they aren't.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by dctoedt »

djhn wrote: post #179

In the last 5 years I've accumulated some 8 000 notes in Evernote, which I would love to move to a safer platform/format in light of recent evidence of data loss and speculation concerning Evernote's longevity. What are the alternatives to organizing this second brain/memory? 50% are 20% complete webpages or complete articles deemed important enough to save a copy for later 10% graphics, annotated images and PDFs 10%…

See the "OneNote Bulk" Evernote-to-OneNote migration utility mentioned at http://www.thetechchat.com/2014/09/05/how-to-convert-notes-f...

EDIT 1: PayPal and LinkedIn indicate that the migration app's developer is in China. [1] That initially gave me pause about using the app --- who knows where my information might end up? --- but then I'm guessing that Chinese hackers seeking to steal confidential information aren't likely to be so open about being in China, nor to charge $30 for the app. (Of course, that too could all be part of the evil hackers' cover story, right?)

EDIT 2: I just used the app to migrate 6,500-plus notes from Evernote to OneNote as a test. It seemed to work flawlessly. (My suggestion is to use Evernote's export facility on each EN notebook in turn to create a separate export file; then set up OneNote sections corresponding to each EN Notebook; then use the OneNote Bulk app to import each EN notebook's export file into the corresponding ON section.) I'm still pondering whether to make a permanent switch.

[1] https://cn.linkedin.com/pub/james-linton/50/82/9a

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