Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices • Hacker News Board

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by blakeyrat » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:33 PM UTC

kasey_junk wrote: post #25

jmadsen wrote: post #21

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It's more than common vernacular in English. "Fired" implies wrong-doing on their part. "Laid off" or "let them go" means the company couldn't afford to pay them, or didn't need them anymore. It leaves no black mark against their name.

I've always found it striking to note how laid off has migrated over time. When my grandfather got laid off, there was an expectation that he would come back to the same job with the same company some time in the near future. When I get laid off there is no expectation that my job will come back.

Companies like Boeing (who have boom and bust years) still use the term "laid off" like that. But they're also union jobs where you basically can't get fired, short of taking a piss in the coffeemaker. So the word "fired" is still fine for those employees "exceptional" enough to get permanently laid off.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by WaterSponge » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:36 PM UTC

cvwright wrote: post #89

cyberpanther wrote: post #17

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My prediction, the next dead unicorn: Dropbox They are similar in that they haven't made anything note worthy in a while and their main product is really just a feature of bigger companies apps and services.

These predictions are fun. Is it time for FC 2.0? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucked_Company

http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by rcarmo » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:38 PM UTC

I switched to OneNote very recently, and the biggest reason was that I was fundamentally fed up with all the extraneous features:

http://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2015/08/16/1800#onenote-to-ru...

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by latchkey » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:39 PM UTC

cyberpanther wrote: post #17

egusa wrote: post #5

businessinsider had a great article on evernote here, "Evernote, the first dead unicorn", which really foreshadowed this: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/evernote-the-first-dead-un...

My prediction, the next dead unicorn: Dropbox They are similar in that they haven't made anything note worthy in a while and their main product is really just a feature of bigger companies apps and services.

The issue I have with Dropbox is that their usage / pricing model is totally broken. If someone shares their folder with me, it shouldn't eat into my storage allocation.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by tuscarok » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:41 PM UTC

Issues I had with Evernote which made me switch to Trello:

* Rubbish font handling and formatting

* Superfluous functionality when it doesn't get the important things right

* The new beta interface doesn't give you a nice general overview of your notes. I preferred the old interface.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by jkmcf » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:44 PM UTC

nealrs wrote: post #6

You know what _really_ sucks about this? They're closing off the API & got rid of their evangelists.

If they kill their API, this will probably be the end of Alternote...

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by shostack » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:45 PM UTC

Is there a solid way to type/paste code and format it properly in Evernote finally?

Last I checked that was near impossible despite it being a largely solved problem in every other text input service out there (Slack, forums, StackExchange, etc.).

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by curiousjorge » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:46 PM UTC

what's evernote again? I keep hearing about it but never seen it or have used it.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by tajen » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:46 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #65

0898 wrote: post #49

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I'm curious: why do you feel Dropbox needs to make something new and noteworthy? Why can't it just stick to its knitting, and continue to offer something that works and people find valuable?

Why can't it just stick to its knitting, and continue to offer something that works and people find valuable? Because now Google, Microsoft and Amazon offer it at a cheaper price and better integrated with their own products. The broader answer here is "Dropbox took a bunch of VC money, so 'just doing well enough' isn't an option for them and they have to stop at nothing to grow faster"

> took a bunch of VC money

Notes-taking apps have the competition of . There isn't much left to do for a notes-taking app: Everything else is bells and whistles.

Responsibilities should be called here. Dropbox, Evernote, Slack and GitHub are all 4 hosting a massive free service, highly replaceable with cheap alternatives, with low switching costs. I sincerely hope the VCs who invest in those companies have another plan than "Add more features forever".

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Post by kristofferR » Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 10:48 PM UTC

Alternote is what the official Evernote client should been. It's the only thing that keeps me on Evernote, since the official client is horrible and slow.

Let's hope Evernote stops messing around with useless features like "Work Chat" and start improving their clients instead. It's kinda silly that a third party can make a client vastly better and more pleasant to use than the official one.

http://alternoteapp.com/