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Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by jsz0 »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #25

Why did Google bother with all of that work to fix SD storage in Android M[0] if they're still not going to put an SD card in their Nexus phones!?! I was holding out hope that I would finally have a reason to buy a Nexus phone with the 5X or 6P, but now that we have the final spec sheet, I think I'm going to just grab an HTC One M9 or something. The lack of expandable storage really kills it for me. [0] http://www.an…

> Why did Google bother with all of that work to fix SD storage

The changes they made could be useful for more than just SD cards.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by aianus »

nine_k wrote: post #208
aianus wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what Spotify is for.

Online music works nice as long as you're in a covered area (and the data traffic is of no concern). This is true for California highways but is often false for New York subway. This can also be an issue if you happen to travel abroad.

> This can also be an issue if you happen to travel abroad.

Data abroad is dirt cheap compared to North America. $1.40 for 150mb when I lived in Vietnam. $30 for 3GB in Mexico. Much faster than Canada too.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by tcdent »

kllrnohj wrote: post #216
tcdent wrote: post #130

Pretty insightful to compare this to Apple's recent release where they've introduced a brand-new input method, in addition to the usual spec-bump. Meanwhile, Google is still building phones that are trying to keep up with what are essentially PC hardware specs (memory, clock speed, etc). I'm amazed they think that protrusion for the camera is cool, too. There are obviously two very different mentalities inside these…

> Pretty insightful to compare this to Apple's recent release where they've introduced a brand-new input method The stylus and touch long-press both predate Apple's usage by years . All Apple contributed was marketing names.

The feature I was referring to is not a long press. I'm sure it was prototyped somewhere 10 years ago, but that is not the same as bringing it to market at all.

Styli and pressure sensitivity on Android is a great example of what you are talking about; it literally is the same product someone came up with 10 years ago. Google has not contributed anything to make it revolutionary.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by lars_francke »

lars_francke wrote: post #129

I understand that I'm not the majority but I do not understand the big deal about cameras on smartphones. Yes, I take a few pics on the phone per year but that's it. Looking around with friends and family I see the same. Again: I understand that there are lots of people that really do take lots of pictures and videos but I can't help but think that lots of regular smartphone users are not as concerned about the camer…

As JustSomeNobody notices I even claim that I'm not the majority. I know that I'm not the majority. The phone companies wouldn't do this if they hadn't done their marketing research. I couldn't find good resources on this just now though. Does anyone have a link to market research done on this?

I'm just saying - and it's fine for you to have a different usage type - that there are people around (even in "tech" circles) that are just not concerned about cameras, pictures and videos. And my feeling is (it's really just a feeling) that it's not clear how many there really are as most of these people are also not active on Facebook, Instagram, Flickr etc.

In other words: I guess my viewpoint is just as subjective as most of yours and heavily dependent on the people around me and you.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by rsync »

I am finally in the market for a new mobile phone - my trusty MOTO FONE (F3)[1] finally died after three years.

One of my absolute no-compromise feature needs is removable media ... an SD card slot that can accept the new 128 GB cards. This is because my current music collection is 68 GB in size and carrying the entire collection is one of my use-cases.

But ... I also want a non-crapware, pure android phone, and the nexus "reference model" idea always appealed to me.

So here's the new phone, and I need one, and click through, ready to pre-order. And then I see my storage choices are 16 and 32 GB. Like it's 2010 or something.

So I'm ready to purchase, card in hand, full price ... and willing to add on $250 or whatever clown-markup they have for the (non-existent) 128 GB model. And unfortunately we can't do business at all.

Maybe next time.

[1] The best phone I ever had - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Fone

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by bitsoda »

shadeless wrote: post #84

As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

Look at it another way, you bought a great phone two years ago that you now get to enjoy for another year! I'd be thankful not for not feeling compelled to shell out ~$400 for a new phone. The only downside is reduced Li-ion capacity, of course.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by Mikeb85 »

moultano wrote: post #137
chdir wrote: post #90

My biggest gripe with Nexus series has been the camera. None of the releases has made a quantum leap in terms of picture quality. I don't care about gimmickries like HDR, live photos, sphere etc., all I want is a $300 Point & Shoot quality. Something that won't make me feel guilty for using a camera phone for preserving spontaneous memories. Please Google :) Samsung has done a great job with the S6, the others like G…

HDR isn't a gimmick, it dramatically improves the picture quality. You get the effect of a super-long exposure on noise level and dynamic range, but with image stabilization, and a compromise on the moving objects in the scene.

HDR is a gimmick in the sense that it just takes information from the sensor to bring out highlights. This is the sort of thing that can be done in post-processing on any RAW image. Its not a feature of the camera itself.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by yoavm »

rsync wrote: post #225

I am finally in the market for a new mobile phone - my trusty MOTO FONE (F3)[1] finally died after three years. One of my absolute no-compromise feature needs is removable media ... an SD card slot that can accept the new 128 GB cards. This is because my current music collection is 68 GB in size and carrying the entire collection is one of my use-cases. But ... I also want a non-crapware, pure android phone, and the…

Wait, you had some kind of special edition of the Fone that had 128GB ?

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by Grazester »

stephengillie wrote: post #116
chdir wrote: post #90

My biggest gripe with Nexus series has been the camera. None of the releases has made a quantum leap in terms of picture quality. I don't care about gimmickries like HDR, live photos, sphere etc., all I want is a $300 Point & Shoot quality. Something that won't make me feel guilty for using a camera phone for preserving spontaneous memories. Please Google :) Samsung has done a great job with the S6, the others like G…

I've heard nothing but compliments about the photos from my Nexus 5 camera. They're very high resolution and look great. I'll post some from Imgur if you want. What problems are you having with yours?

You kidding right? Maybe your have the art of taking photos with that phone down or something but pictures I take with it always seems to washed out compared to my Moto X(another bad one)

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by bitmapbrother »

mtgx wrote: post #68
cheald wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 1.55 micrometer pixel sensors are interesting. If they actually do what they're supposed to, then exposure times should be decreased which would theoretically reduce the usefulness of OIS. I guess we'll see once the reviews start coming in.

Only partially. OIS is still useful for video stabilization. Bigger pixels won't help there.

DxOMark has already ranked the Nexus 6P as 2nd best behind the S6 Edge.

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles

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