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Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by jewbacca »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #25

Why did Google bother with all of that work to fix SD storage in Android M[0] if they're still not going to put an SD card in their Nexus phones!?! I was holding out hope that I would finally have a reason to buy a Nexus phone with the 5X or 6P, but now that we have the final spec sheet, I think I'm going to just grab an HTC One M9 or something. The lack of expandable storage really kills it for me. [0] http://www.an…

1. The Nexus line is supposed to be something like Google's Android reference device, and implements the minimum common set of features -- up-to-date computing hardware and screen, reasonable-resolution cameras, standard set of sensors (GPS, acceleration, etc.). An SD card slot doesn't really add any technical possibilities.

2. Google probably wants to push the idea that any storage beyond local apps should be to the cloud.

(which is comically unviable in Canada, where you're paying $25-50 per 1 GB of mobile data)

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A year ago, I got a Nexus 5 after a long search for a replacement for my stalwart iPhone 3GS. The lack of SD card was the primary sticking point, and caused me days of choice-agony. In the end, price and "cleanliness" (stock android, lack of shitware, doesn't fight software customization very hard) won out.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by zanny »

cpncrunch wrote: post #47
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

128 GB would be enough, but I resent having to pay an extra $150 for it as internal storage when I can find a 128gb memory card for about $60 on Amazon.

The internal memory is much faster than SD cards, and potentially more reliable. I think Google and Samsung have decided to ditch sd cards to prevent the user having a shitty experience. Also, Google is offering 128GB, which is pretty decent. And their pricing is much less than Samsung's for 64gb vs 32gb.

Then amend the parent and instead say "I feel ripped off paying $150 premium for a 128GB model when I could buy a desktop 512GB 850 Evo for that much".

And I guarantee you Samsungs SSD options are faster than their phone flash, because they go for performance way more on desktop parts.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by georgefrick »

quasse wrote: post #82
georgefrick wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. With only 32GB, the "Use the cloud, Luke" is a bit pushy. The only thing selling me is the desire to get the USB Type C. I've experienced what you are talking about, every time I get an OTA for the Nexus 5; the performance seems to degrade dramatically. We're looking at spending $400 every 2 years to stay every other gen Nexus? That isn't horrible (55 cents a day or so). But if we pay for services to avoid stora…

Honestly the cloud push doesn't bother me, although I'd suspect I don't go about it the way Google wants. I host my own Subsonic media server which means that I can just set a cache size in Android (5GB right now) and let it automatically download my media as I consume it and push old stuff out of the cache. Combined with Dropbox camera uploads I generally don't use much more than 10GB of storage on my phone.

I'm going to check Subsonic out, thanks for the recommendation. Now I really don't need to upgrade.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by afsina »

legulere wrote: post #49

I wonder how the fingerprints will be stored. Secure from access by the operating system? Or will they be uploaded to Google like wifi passwords?

Most likely they do not store the image of the fingerprint. They may store the minutae which is not that good. But if they store the hash of the minutae (something like locality sensitive hash) it would be quite safe.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by stormbrew »

shadeless wrote: post #84

As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

Wait, these don't have wireless charging? Ugh.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by stephengillie »

chdir wrote: post #90

My biggest gripe with Nexus series has been the camera. None of the releases has made a quantum leap in terms of picture quality. I don't care about gimmickries like HDR, live photos, sphere etc., all I want is a $300 Point & Shoot quality. Something that won't make me feel guilty for using a camera phone for preserving spontaneous memories. Please Google :) Samsung has done a great job with the S6, the others like G…

I've heard nothing but compliments about the photos from my Nexus 5 camera. They're very high resolution and look great. I'll post some from Imgur if you want. What problems are you having with yours?

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by r3m6 »

chdir wrote: post #90

My biggest gripe with Nexus series has been the camera. None of the releases has made a quantum leap in terms of picture quality. I don't care about gimmickries like HDR, live photos, sphere etc., all I want is a $300 Point & Shoot quality. Something that won't make me feel guilty for using a camera phone for preserving spontaneous memories. Please Google :) Samsung has done a great job with the S6, the others like G…

Same here. Can we/anyone tell from the specs how good (say, relative to S6/iPhone6) the new camera will be?

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by caskance »

tedunangst wrote: post #92

> 518 pixels per inch To the moon! Considering it's a six inch phone, how close to my face am I going to be holding this thing? I wonder what's coming next. 240Hz refresh rates?

If they're serious about putting your phone in a headset to use it as a VR display, that wouldn't be a bad idea.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by oconnore »

shadeless wrote: post #84

As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

Why are you disappointed? It sounds like a device you bought a few years ago has a longer useful lifespan than you thought. You get to have a state of the art phone for less money when you own it longer.

I wonder if devices will start to be built better, with more replaceable components as the rate of spec improvements in mobile devices slows down.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by windsurfer »

jjcm wrote: post #31
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #25

Why did Google bother with all of that work to fix SD storage in Android M[0] if they're still not going to put an SD card in their Nexus phones!?! I was holding out hope that I would finally have a reason to buy a Nexus phone with the 5X or 6P, but now that we have the final spec sheet, I think I'm going to just grab an HTC One M9 or something. The lack of expandable storage really kills it for me. [0] http://www.an…

Serious question - do you really use more than 128GB on your phone? If so, at what point would internal storage be good enough for you to not require extendable storage?

The more storage someone has available, the more they might use. I could see carrying around a phone with 4 TB of storage, holding all my operating systems, data, HD movies and video games, for instance, and simply plugging it into terminals and booting on more powerful hardware.
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