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Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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I wouldn't assume 30+ folks don't care. We have been online since the 90s (at least) and we've seen some bad shit in our lifetime. An interesting survey would be: Are you "creeped out" by Facebook? Try that survey on Facebook (if it doesn't get blocked) and see how that goes ;-)

People might not always agree with you dude and that is okay. Overuse of the wink smiley is patronising.

What's your point? And I've been using the wink smiley for 30 years. You're the first to say something about it.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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"A popular subject for a tiny, passionate minority that has little relevance relative to the huge number of everyday users out there." Linux did take over Windows. You realize Android is Linux, right? That's 80% of the mobile market right here https://twitter.com/BIIntelligence/status/605748823709859840... And now Microsoft is building Android apps. So that tiny, passionate minority was right ;-)

Linux didn't take over Windows: it took over much of the server space and a specific form of it dominated mobile. Windows still dominates the desktop space as the commenter clearly meant. Further, a single company and product line has been holding its own against Android with profits that made Microsoft and IBM look poor. In the end, all the volunteers and paid programmers combined working on Linux couldn't displace…

>Apple getting 50% of market's profit

92% has been reported recently

http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-share-of-smartphone-indus...

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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"A popular subject for a tiny, passionate minority that has little relevance relative to the huge number of everyday users out there." Linux did take over Windows. You realize Android is Linux, right? That's 80% of the mobile market right here https://twitter.com/BIIntelligence/status/605748823709859840... And now Microsoft is building Android apps. So that tiny, passionate minority was right ;-)

Linux didn't take over Windows: it took over much of the server space and a specific form of it dominated mobile. Windows still dominates the desktop space as the commenter clearly meant. Further, a single company and product line has been holding its own against Android with profits that made Microsoft and IBM look poor. In the end, all the volunteers and paid programmers combined working on Linux couldn't displace…

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Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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I was saving up this idea, but here's how you could disrupt Facebook. This is already happening, but it could be automated. In short, automatically DELAY posting to Facebook. Let everybody know at the bottom of all content: This was published first at example.com and released to social media (Facebook) after X hours. Make Facebook look antiquated like a newspaper. Let everyone know, Facebook is the old news. If you w…

I don't know anybody who gets "really time-sensitive" info from Facebook. I can't even think of an example beyond your not terribly good example of a shampoo sale.

In general, if publishers are automatically sharing to Facebook without some kind of delay, people will just stay on Facebook. Also consider the private groups on Facebook, they could be sharing paid subscriptions and who would know?

The idea isn't just about Facebook, but publishing anything to get more subscribers. If your posts are time-sensitive and people can get your info through social media (without delay) then you're probably losing traffic, because people are busy, lazy, whatever--they're often already on Facebook and need a reason to go somewhere else.

Paid subscriptions aren't as common, and I almost deleted that part of my comment, but people do pay for time-sensitive info. As far as the "paid tier" I was thinking out loud, in terms of building a general purpose SAS app for publishers. I haven't nailed down exactly how it would work, to delay posts to social media. Obviously it would need compelling case studies where people increased traffic and subscribers, and revenue. I can think of a couple of markets to start with, but not getting more specific than that.

Another aspect of this is the notifications. I think email notifications are good to start with because they show up on your phone, and if those notifications are customizable and targeted, that's convenient. But I think there's more you could do with notifications, so that people aren't annoyed that they have to go to your website to find the (timely) information they want. If you can do better notifications than social media (more specific, less annoying) then I think people will more likely go to your website vs. consume your content through social media which sends less-useful notifications.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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post #147

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"A popular subject for a tiny, passionate minority that has little relevance relative to the huge number of everyday users out there." Linux did take over Windows. You realize Android is Linux, right? That's 80% of the mobile market right here https://twitter.com/BIIntelligence/status/605748823709859840... And now Microsoft is building Android apps. So that tiny, passionate minority was right ;-)

Linux vs Windows result was that the whole question become pointless, desktop computing was replaced by cloud and mobiles. This will be eventually also fate of FaceBook - we might see no direct FB killer, but something completely different which makes whole class of social networks pointless. Maybe telepathic technology - we could barely guess. Btw, same thing will happen with Google as search engine - generic web se…

Along the lines of what I was thinking, a new class. I wonder about Google shrinking too. It has been suggested that autocomplete was a way for Google to hide that the number of searches was flat (not growing) and they changed the definition of a unique search with autocomplete. Of course, people are doing voice searches and YouTube searches now. The game changed.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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Now, only a year later, Ello is nearly forgotten, filed away with other would-be Facebook killers like the open source Diaspora and the near-dead Google+ The problem with this statement is that there is a vast difference in number of users between Ello and Google+. The latter is far from "forgotten" or "near dead." Every time I hit G+, it's teeming with activity. I can't say that about Ello, which seems to be populat…

The fact is: Google makes billions more in revenue and has billions more users. Google is founded on real technology and algorithms, facebook started by copying and pasting cold fusion code from myspace.

Any source for the cold fusion thing? I thought it was all in PHP.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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As it stands, Facebook has a better privacy story than email. Facebook traffic is encrypted straight through to Facebook's servers, and I'm confident that my data is not leaving Facebook. (You can pay Facebook to show ads to specific demographics; you can't actually buy user data.)

Email, on the other hand, is plaintext for most of its journey and available in cleartext to dozens of shady actors (every ISP in the path, sender's provider, recipient's provider). The courts are clear that email is not considered private and not protected by law.

I'd like to see GPG+email become the new Facebook, but I'll take Facebook over email as it stands now easily.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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And the real anti-Twitter is good old websites. https://indiewebcamp.com

I think the biggest barrier to people setting up personal/"open" websites is the exhaustion of the .com namespace. If your name is common or even remotely plausible, it's taken by a squatter. One of the key advantages of a closed, locked-down social networking environment is the ability to have multiple people identified by the same real name, and a relatively less crowded field for screen names (because squatting is less of an issue).

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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post #152

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Linux didn't take over Windows: it took over much of the server space and a specific form of it dominated mobile. Windows still dominates the desktop space as the commenter clearly meant. Further, a single company and product line has been holding its own against Android with profits that made Microsoft and IBM look poor. In the end, all the volunteers and paid programmers combined working on Linux couldn't displace…

>Apple getting 50% of market's profit 92% has been reported recently http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-share-of-smartphone-indus...

Wow. That's amazing. Their ability to get people to want over-priced stuff is and often was amazing. I'll give them that.
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