One of my pet peeves are the sites like LinkedIn and scribd that push you hard to install a c-rap. If at all possible I prefer to browse desktop sites on my tablet father than mobile sites that assume I have sold my firstborn son to Verizon in exchange for the right to breath through a straw in places where Verizon feels like providing service.
Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
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Re: Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't so firmly say "not anymore" when only 15% of Android users[1] are on the latest version of Android almost a year after its release. That number probably won't go any higher over time either because Android's update cycle is a mess. [1] https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
> That number probably won't go any higher over time either because Android's update cycle is a mess. What? People don't upgrade to an older phone. That number has nowhere to go but highter. The upgrade cycle being a mess just make this take more time.
By "that number" I meant the percentage of users who're using the latest version of Android. Lollipop's numbers will eventually get higher, but by that time there'll be 2 or 3 newer versions of Android.
Re: Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
poeple especially don't need apps of 150mb+ each, and premium phones come with limited storage forcing costly upgrades on top of an hefty price. the only competitive advantage for apps is push notifications, and the sooner browsers and phones can build that into a standard the better (including opening the right page when clicking on a specific service notification)
The other thing is privacy. I don't want to give every service a "full access" into my phone. At least I have a feeling, that my privacy is in better hands, if I access services using up-to-date mobile browser (or Tinfoil for Facebook) instead of a native app running on my phone. Looking at the ridiculous number of permissions different apps would require to run on my (Android) phone, using mobile site of the most of…
I remember having switchable permissions since 4.3. Did something change in the meantime?
Re: Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> An app usually has read/write access to large parts of my device. The whole sd-card, raw internet access, the camera, the microphone, ask me for money etc. And it can keep doing so even when it's "closed". The Play Store and installing APK's shows you a full list of permissions that the app will have access to before installing. If you're not happy with it, just don't install the app.
> The Play Store and installing APK's shows you a full list of permissions that the app will have access to before installing. If you're not happy with it, just don't install the app. That's a shitty way to do things. You should be able to revoke access to things the app is asking and still use the (then crippled) app. There are tons of apps who ask way more access rights than they need (obviously not related to thei…
You can do that, I think. After installing an app you can go the the app settings and disable specific permissions.
Re: Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also VLC player. The thing is all those things will eventually migrate to the web. Right now the web has so much potential and those pieces of software have a small market and that market is pretty saturated. Once we do everything we can do with the web then we will move into domains that have incumbents I would say Facebook is much more useful to society then Audio Production.
The web is a cesspool. Its monetization is so twisted and unnatural, with individual users worth next to nothing. Companies engage in all sorts of dark patterns, tracking and other scummy bullshit to try to squeeze out an extra tenth of a penny per user. Hell, click on the link to this article and Amazon, LinkedIn, Google, and a dozen others all get to know what you just read! I don't share the excitement about bring…
It seems like a market pattern. When the market size become so big, value gets down to nothing, then yes businesses act this way.
Re: Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I try to find an app for things I regularly (daily) use. Some things have excellent apps which far surpass the web experience for me (like Reddit, Linkedin, Inbox, Skype) while others are crap (all HN apps I tried, including the paid ones, Hipchat (what a piece of...), almost all airline apps). But when the experience of the app surpasses the web, it does so by such a stretch that when I start the web version on my d…
Not sure if you have an Android device...but have you tried the Yarn app (Hacker News)? It's the only HN app that is usable for me. _This comment sent using Yarn for HN_
I have both Android & iOS; I just don't use Android too much but thank you for the recommendation, I will install it.
Re: Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
>like it did on desktop It's pretty great that this happened. I'm so sick of using these pesky desktop applications. Just remind me, which web apps can I use for the following? -Audio production -3D animation -Video editing -CAD design -Writing/debugging software
Audio production: https://soundation.com/ 3D animation: https://clara.io/ Video Editing: https://www.wevideo.com/ CAD design: https://www.tinkercad.com/ Writing/debugging software: https://codenvy.com/ Now of course I expect we'll here the "but it misses feature X". I'm sure that's true. Next, someone will point out that generally, 80% of people don't need feature X, and the fact that it is online means it is many ti…
None of those hold up a candle to actual native programs.
Re: Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
#88The difference between web and app is trust. A website has write access to my screen, my speakers and my internet connection. Plus limited read access. To keyboard, mouse, device orientation etc. Other rights can be granted (location, cookies etc). It can do all this only as long as it's "open". An app usually has read/write access to large parts of my device. The whole sd-card, raw internet access, the camera, the m…
A website has write access to my screen, my speakers and my internet connection.
And on iOS, even speakers and high bandwidth content are loaded only on a per user request basis.
Re: Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
#89The difference between web and app is trust. A website has write access to my screen, my speakers and my internet connection. Plus limited read access. To keyboard, mouse, device orientation etc. Other rights can be granted (location, cookies etc). It can do all this only as long as it's "open". An app usually has read/write access to large parts of my device. The whole sd-card, raw internet access, the camera, the m…
Apps have feature capability that websites don't, unfortunately.
Re: Mobile browser traffic is 2X bigger than app traffic, and growing faster
#90and bot traffic is 80% of your entire site traffic
and 80% of unique visitors too (not sarcasm).