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The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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post #58

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That is what diaspora tried to do. It has not gone well.

That's why I think, it takes Facebook (the current monopoly) to do the right thing. If they open the other required things will automatically happen. G+ will become an attractive option once again, for people who like that interface. And HN types will implement their own 'social' protocol, and self host.

Fab ook are not gonna do the right thing. They're gonna try to maximize their profits.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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post #28

Facebook is flexible enough to provide this. You can post updates visible only to a group of people. Problem with Facebook is how people use it. Users tend to have > 500 friends on an average including ones to whom you have never spoken or never want to speak. This would make your timeline pretty irrelevant and uninteresting to you. Why would I care if a colleague in your first job (10 yr ago) went on a trip with his…

You know you "unsubscribe" from people while remaining friends with them? (or have different circles of people as another poster noted).

Facebook actually makes it easy to avoid uninteresting posts with a small amount of effort.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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post #51

I don't think email is a good replacement for Facebook. Rather what we need is open (email protocol like) social networks. The problem with Facebook is that its a monopoly, and closed. What if it were open, such that I can send a friend request from G+ to Facebook. Just like I can easily send an email from yahoo email id to gmail. This openness, if incorporated, can solve the monopoly problem as well. Plus we don't h…

That is what diaspora tried to do. It has not gone well.

Diaspora was written by a bunch of college students who were unqualified to be implementing the security protocols necessary. Given that one of the biggest reasons people want to move off Facebook is security, that's a no-go. The fact that Diaspora failed at implementing this idea doesn't mean that the idea is bad.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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post #28

Facebook is flexible enough to provide this. You can post updates visible only to a group of people. Problem with Facebook is how people use it. Users tend to have > 500 friends on an average including ones to whom you have never spoken or never want to speak. This would make your timeline pretty irrelevant and uninteresting to you. Why would I care if a colleague in your first job (10 yr ago) went on a trip with his…

You know you "unsubscribe" from people while remaining friends with them? (or have different circles of people as another poster noted). Facebook actually makes it easy to avoid uninteresting posts with a small amount of effort.

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Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is what diaspora tried to do. It has not gone well.

That's why I think, it takes Facebook (the current monopoly) to do the right thing. If they open the other required things will automatically happen. G+ will become an attractive option once again, for people who like that interface. And HN types will implement their own 'social' protocol, and self host.

While I sympathize with the gist of your sentiments: What's in it for FB? Nobody (outside of an HN-type crowd) wants to self-host anything, nor do they know what that means. The 30 yr old+ folks without any technical knowledge think FB is great and see no reason anything should change. You are basically calling for FB to reduce their monopoly to satisfy 0.01% of their addressable market. I believe the force that will reduce the significance of FB will come from outside of FB (and there is no shortage of people trying and failing to do that).

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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post #42

Now, only a year later, Ello is nearly forgotten, filed away with other would-be Facebook killers like the open source Diaspora and the near-dead Google+ The problem with this statement is that there is a vast difference in number of users between Ello and Google+. The latter is far from "forgotten" or "near dead." Every time I hit G+, it's teeming with activity. I can't say that about Ello, which seems to be populat…

The fact is: Google makes billions more in revenue and has billions more users. Google is founded on real technology and algorithms, facebook started by copying and pasting cold fusion code from myspace.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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I moved out of state a couple of years ago, and when I stopped using Facebook, I realized: 1: Facebook never was a good way of keeping in touch with friends and family back home for a number of reasons 2: I needed to be doing a better job of keeping in touch with friends and family back home My solution was to set up a newsletter. The idea is every 3-4 months I send out a mass email to friends and family describing w…

But getting someone's Facebook is less socially awkward than their email address. You can also remember them easier and communicate with them faster. Most of the people I met this summer didn't have an American phone number so Facebook (or Whatsapp) was the only way to communicate with them.

> But getting someone's Facebook is less socially awkward than their email address.

I don't understand why this would be. Would you explain why -for your cohort- this is true?

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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post #69

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How is RSS support in Outlook?

I didn't know it supported RSS, so I tried it. Seems nice enough: https://imgur.com/NdqMcbx

That toolbar tho. Ugh. I assumed he was talking about Outlook.com, not Outlook 2013.
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