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The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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I don't agree with that. The real anti-Facebook is a combination of email and well formatted RSS feeds. Email for actual legitimate notifications and mail, RSS feeds for news and news type bloggy stuff and blogs.

Why not both? I would prefer to have my emails and feeds in one place, just no status updates.

What you need is Microsoft Outlook. Nirvana

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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The real anti-Facebook is Sublevel. But I can forgive Wired for not knowing about it.

Just read their About page, can't see how it's significantly different to Facebook or Twitter. It's still a proprietary network with all the Balkanization and opportunities for abuse that implies, isn't it?

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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Ellos is a completely different beast than Facebook. While they're definitely not in the spotlight as much as they were previously, the service is still fundamentally sound, and some pretty amazing content gets uploaded there daily. I have yet to see a listicle.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not both? I would prefer to have my emails and feeds in one place, just no status updates.

What's stopping you? No reason a mail client can't do RSS as well, is there? (I'm pretty sure some do, or at least did.)

Thunderbird supports RSS feed support, though they are kept separate from e-mail, somewhat.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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I check Facebook once in a while and keep getting alerts (via a userscript) that friends of mine have deleted their accounts. On the other hand, the mailing list that my close friends and I created in high school is still keeping us in touch years later.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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Why feeds? Getting a newsletter is getting a feed, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, WhatsApp are all about getting a feed of endless news. All alternative social networks are the same.

Why "social network" became synonymous of producing and reading news from the life of people?

MySpace and Orkut were not that way. I imagine other social networks from the early 2000's were not that way also.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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Interesting; I was not aware of TinyLetter. Though it doe nothing to address the use of Facebook for interpersonal communication, I guess they're referring to the use of facebook to nurture an audience and reach out to them en masse. Would folks consider this approach a practical replacement for RSS-like services, to reach out to a broader audience? Since most ("lay")people don't seem interested in going out of their…

TinyLetter is a really funky thing, and as you say it's more about nurturing an audience. What's special about it is more the way people have adopted it than anything. Like a public corkboard, its size and functionality belies its usefulness to a wide group (the analogy stops there, as these emails are one-way). Most of the TinyLetter emails that I get are just different, like a special recipe almost.

I've been subscribing to tons of RSS feeds for business blogging recently, and while there are similarities, there's just no way I'd accept TinyLetter as a substitute for a feed. First there's the awkward idea of a gigantic email folder hierarchy to store it all. Then there are things like enclosures, a Youtube video, mp3 files, etc. Also, I've noticed that email links (view this in your browser!) tend to rot about 10x as fast and are not indexed by e.g. archive.org. So I dunno, it's just different tech.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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Facebook is flexible enough to provide this. You can post updates visible only to a group of people. Problem with Facebook is how people use it. Users tend to have > 500 friends on an average including ones to whom you have never spoken or never want to speak. This would make your timeline pretty irrelevant and uninteresting to you. Why would I care if a colleague in your first job (10 yr ago) went on a trip with his childhood friends.

Take a scrub to your Facebook friends list and you can get a more powerful TinyLetter.

Practically speaking you'd never un-friend people unless they personally bother you. This is why I hardly check my Facebook timeline. All I use is Messenger which is pretty useful to keep in touch with people you want to.

So, the real anti Facebook is Facebook itself with a fresh start.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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This is a great advert for TinyLetter, would love to know if they approached Wired to get this published and how that process went down.

That's got to be a "sponsored story". At the bottom of the page, there are links to more "Sponsored Stories - Powered by Outbrain".

What is happening, and happened years ago, is that many people stopped using Facebook messaging and went back to email. It's easier to get messages via email on smartphones than to run Facebook's app.

Re: The real anti-Facebook is good old email

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Except “good old email” is basically owned by Google now, so there’s small choice in rotten apples.

The difference is that email doesn't depend on Google to exist, and leaving Gmail isn't all that bad. They even support email forwarding, so that you wouldn't loose contact with people that only have your old email: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/10957?hl=en
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