This is called a clepsydra (water clock) tracker. A group at New Mexico Tech added water pumps to the technology to take out the need for manual refilling. What people tend to forget about trackers are they cost money and have to be massive to hold their angles in the wind. They are also less space-efficient users of land than fixed mounts, which is why standard PV's never tend to use them. It also costs less per wat…
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#12Anything that moves will one day break. I hesitate to move away from the reliability of a static panel. Adjusting the drip rate in this scheme would also be constant battle of weather, temperature and season. You'd never get it perfect. Compared to a simple solar setup it may be more efficient, but compared to more complex, yet still static, combinations of a panels and a reflectors I don't think the improvements are…
Cool link! But would you add a motor and microprocessor to assist with the monthly angle adjustment, please? :p Seriously, this is a new idea to me. It looks like the chief weakness is it doesn't really help in the winter, which is exactly when you need the most efficiency.
When it's overcast, the best position is pointing straight up, eg fixed at the correct angle for that latitude.
To put it another way, a tracker optimises your panel in sunny conditions, which is not worth doing. That's when you have a surplus of charge.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cool link! But would you add a motor and microprocessor to assist with the monthly angle adjustment, please? :p Seriously, this is a new idea to me. It looks like the chief weakness is it doesn't really help in the winter, which is exactly when you need the most efficiency.
Yes, you must size your panels for the worst case, not the best case. When it's overcast, the best position is pointing straight up, eg fixed at the correct angle for that latitude. To put it another way, a tracker optimises your panel in sunny conditions, which is not worth doing. That's when you have a surplus of charge.
Re: Gravity-Powered Solar Tracker
#14This is called a clepsydra (water clock) tracker. A group at New Mexico Tech added water pumps to the technology to take out the need for manual refilling. What people tend to forget about trackers are they cost money and have to be massive to hold their angles in the wind. They are also less space-efficient users of land than fixed mounts, which is why standard PV's never tend to use them. It also costs less per wat…
I think we we potentially getting there with energy storage as well for off grid installations. Rather than trickle charge a storage system that can supply short bursts of massive power (think running a welder off of solar), purchase more generating capacity and feed it directly into the inverters and use storage for the minimal case. Excess can be shunted into a opportunistic load.
Re: Gravity-Powered Solar Tracker
#15Anything that moves will one day break. I hesitate to move away from the reliability of a static panel. Adjusting the drip rate in this scheme would also be constant battle of weather, temperature and season. You'd never get it perfect. Compared to a simple solar setup it may be more efficient, but compared to more complex, yet still static, combinations of a panels and a reflectors I don't think the improvements are…
Re: Gravity-Powered Solar Tracker
#16Anything that moves will one day break. I hesitate to move away from the reliability of a static panel. Adjusting the drip rate in this scheme would also be constant battle of weather, temperature and season. You'd never get it perfect. Compared to a simple solar setup it may be more efficient, but compared to more complex, yet still static, combinations of a panels and a reflectors I don't think the improvements are…
But the efficiency difference is dramatic, especially for monocrystalline. I got full power in the middle of winter near sunet (4pm) by tilting the panel almost vertically.
Consider the effect of solar ray incidence on Earth: it's why the tropics are hot and the poles are cold. It's the difference between summer and winter.
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#17A human has to refill the bottles.
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#18A human has to refill the bottles.
Another mechanical approach that is relatively cheap and doesn't require refilling bottles is to use a closed system of a hydraulic cylinder and two exposed freon tanks, one facing east and one facing west: http://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/solar-tracker-zmaz77ndzgo... These mechanical approaches are generally awesome because they hold up well in bad weather. If you wanted to go all out I don't see why you couldn't…
o o o
o X o
o o o
This is in an enclosed box with a hole over the center. Here, "o" represents a photodiode and "X" represents the center of the hole. When the solar panel is pointed directly at the sun, the sun is at position X and no photodiode is lit up. As the sun changes position, eventually it will light up one of the photodiodes. That completes a circuit which uses power from the panel to drive a motor, which is attached to a worm gear and rotates the panel towards the sun. Eventually the sun will be pointed at the X position again which breaks the circuit and stops the rotation. Each diode completes a circuit, driving one or both motors (in the case of the corner diodes) rotating them appropriately.It'd be interesting as well to have some sort of mechanism which, when the panel receives power, keeps it locked in place. When the panel has no power for a period of time (ie: after sunset) the mechanism disengages and the panel falls back to its default position pointing towards sunrise.
Re: Gravity-Powered Solar Tracker
#19Anything that moves will one day break. I hesitate to move away from the reliability of a static panel. Adjusting the drip rate in this scheme would also be constant battle of weather, temperature and season. You'd never get it perfect. Compared to a simple solar setup it may be more efficient, but compared to more complex, yet still static, combinations of a panels and a reflectors I don't think the improvements are…
This system doesn't seem very expensive or difficult to repair. And in any case, the worst-case scenario is that the solar panel becomes static.
Re: Gravity-Powered Solar Tracker
#20Anything that moves will one day break. I hesitate to move away from the reliability of a static panel. Adjusting the drip rate in this scheme would also be constant battle of weather, temperature and season. You'd never get it perfect. Compared to a simple solar setup it may be more efficient, but compared to more complex, yet still static, combinations of a panels and a reflectors I don't think the improvements are…