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Re: I Have Read Prop F

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This is a really laudable write-up, whether or not you agree with prop F. The problem of "sounds good in principle" propositions that are terribly or deceptively drafted is one that makes every California election a minefield.

That's why a strangely sound election strategy is to just vote no on every proposition. Most of them have heavy corporate sponsorship and are written to deceive the public.

And even if you are willing to put in the time to read some props and convince yourself they're a good idea, vote no on all the ones you can't be bothered to research.

Re: I Have Read Prop F

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You have it exactly backwards. The density of SF is almost double Brooklyn. 18k/mi^2 vs 10k/mi^2

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It's the answer box on Google:

https://www.google.com/search?q=population+density+brooklyn&...

http://www.brooklyn.com/population.html

Re: I Have Read Prop F

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reading the proposition would help, but that's beside the point ain't it? Someone really needed to let us know how fantastic things are when the gubmint gets out of the way. Got it.

Get over your self satisfied prejudices and actually think for a minute. Other cities don't have the same housing crisis as San Francisco and guess what, those cities also don't have bizarre and impossible restrictions on new constructions. So yeah, it is the city government causing the problem and suggestioning they only need another 18 months to come up with a plan is myopoc bullshit, they've had twenty years and s…

> Get over your self satisfied prejudices and actually think for a minute

> tells me all i need to know of your cognitive powers

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Re: I Have Read Prop F

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The density of Brooklyn is almost double San Francisco, and I wouldn't consider Brooklyn a very high rise city.

> The density of Brooklyn is almost double San Francisco, and I wouldn't consider Brooklyn a very high rise city. What are you smoking? I want some of that. Brooklyn has a density of 35,369.1 people per square mile. That would make it the 5th most dense city in the US. Behind only other New York areas. It would even put it in the top 10 in density for Europe. What the hell DO you consider a dense city?

Downvoting because you can't refute inconvenient facts? Nice.

Re: I Have Read Prop F

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It's the answer box on Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=population+density+brooklyn&... http://www.brooklyn.com/population.html

From your second link -

"There are about 34,916 people per square mile in Brooklyn"

Re: I Have Read Prop F

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It's the answer box on Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=population+density+brooklyn&... http://www.brooklyn.com/population.html

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Re: I Have Read Prop F

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> The density of Brooklyn is almost double San Francisco, and I wouldn't consider Brooklyn a very high rise city. What are you smoking? I want some of that. Brooklyn has a density of 35,369.1 people per square mile. That would make it the 5th most dense city in the US. Behind only other New York areas. It would even put it in the top 10 in density for Europe. What the hell DO you consider a dense city?

Downvoting because you can't refute inconvenient facts? Nice.

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Re: I Have Read Prop F

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It's the answer box on Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=population+density+brooklyn&... http://www.brooklyn.com/population.html

Careful, I think the per km^2 numbers are getting conflated with the per mi^2 numbers.

Re: I Have Read Prop F

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It all comes back to Proposition 13, which crippled local governments.

Imagine how many people who've owned their homes for years would be forced to sell and move elsewhere in San Francisco if prop 13 were repealed.

Imagine a state where decisions about local concerns are handled by local government, rather than getting kicked up to the statehouse.
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