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Cyber Sleuths Track Hacker to China’s Military

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Re: Cyber Sleuths Track Hacker to China’s Military

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Post by happyscrappy »

wsterling wrote: post #25
peter303 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironical MSFT and FB are fawning over Xi's visit giving him the royal tours. China treats these two companies very poorly. Nearly all MSFT software in China is pirated. China bans FB partly for censorship and partly to protect internal social networking products.

MSFT and FB want to maintain and increase access to the 1.35 Billion people of China. Not ironic at all, those companies need to be in China even if treated poorly.

Except Google. But standing on principle is pricey.

Re: Cyber Sleuths Track Hacker to China’s Military

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Post by arielby »

billyhoffman wrote: post #14
at-fates-hands wrote: post #4

If you get the paywall, I'd advise downloading the actual report from ThreatConnect it's far more detailed: http://www.threatconnect.com/camerashy/

Why do companies, security companies even, do something like this... " Below are the document checksums for Project_CAMERASHY_ThreatConnect_Copyright_2015.pdf MD5: b12f118840d0aa0d5ab2fb9aa052ede3 SHA1: dbd710751a6c32ba91401fb5e5623f46b4d2475f SHA256: da6b105f1e58f860ce67b2ad2db7b15ff7b637cfb37f7d0680a20eb633bcc741" ... when you are then providing both the PDF, and the list of its supposed hashes, over an unencrypted…

A few years ago it was popular to serve files via a not-really-trusted mirror (e.g. Sourceforge), while serving the website via a personal server.

Re: Cyber Sleuths Track Hacker to China’s Military

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Post by tellthetruth1 »

happywolf wrote: post #27
peter303 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironical MSFT and FB are fawning over Xi's visit giving him the royal tours. China treats these two companies very poorly. Nearly all MSFT software in China is pirated. China bans FB partly for censorship and partly to protect internal social networking products.

MS technically has ability to shut off and cripple any pirated Windows over the wire if it wants to. But in this case, it has chosen not to for a lot of Asian countries. The reason? Market share. It wants users to get used to how Windows works, versus to other alternatives like Linux, Mac, etc.

Freemium model.

Re: Cyber Sleuths Track Hacker to China’s Military

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Post by imglorp »

happywolf wrote: post #27
peter303 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironical MSFT and FB are fawning over Xi's visit giving him the royal tours. China treats these two companies very poorly. Nearly all MSFT software in China is pirated. China bans FB partly for censorship and partly to protect internal social networking products.

MS technically has ability to shut off and cripple any pirated Windows over the wire if it wants to. But in this case, it has chosen not to for a lot of Asian countries. The reason? Market share. It wants users to get used to how Windows works, versus to other alternatives like Linux, Mac, etc.

Good observation. MS is willing to pay a high price for market share.

For example, nobody wanted Windows Mobile, so they paid Nokia to install it. Failing that (X-Box is another product they're paying customers to take, in exchange for living room share. It's lost billions overall since its beginning.

Re: Cyber Sleuths Track Hacker to China’s Military

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Post by tellthetruth1 »

webXL wrote: post #12

"Grassroots" hacking isn't a good strategy for a state that wants to cover up its tracks. So I'm suspicious of these claims. Perhaps the government makes it worth the hackers' while to hack the USG instead of it. Just sad that so many intelligent people would rather be powerful/wealthy than free (not that the USG is a shining example of that sentiment).

You are Not free if you are poor and powerless!

Re: Cyber Sleuths Track Hacker to China’s Military

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Post by webXL »

tellthetruth1 wrote: post #35
webXL wrote: post #12

"Grassroots" hacking isn't a good strategy for a state that wants to cover up its tracks. So I'm suspicious of these claims. Perhaps the government makes it worth the hackers' while to hack the USG instead of it. Just sad that so many intelligent people would rather be powerful/wealthy than free (not that the USG is a shining example of that sentiment).

You are Not free if you are poor and powerless!

I'm not sure I understand your point. What does material possession and power (I assume over others) have to do with freedom?

These hackers have power (their ability to obtain government data and subvert its power) and the Chinese government is perhaps wisely channeling it to its foreign adversaries.

Re: Cyber Sleuths Track Hacker to China’s Military

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Post by [deleted] »

webXL wrote: post #36
tellthetruth1 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are Not free if you are poor and powerless!

I'm not sure I understand your point. What does material possession and power (I assume over others) have to do with freedom? These hackers have power (their ability to obtain government data and subvert its power) and the Chinese government is perhaps wisely channeling it to its foreign adversaries.

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Re: Cyber Sleuths Track Hacker to China’s Military

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Post by bobmagoo »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #4

If you get the paywall, I'd advise downloading the actual report from ThreatConnect it's far more detailed: http://www.threatconnect.com/camerashy/

Ugh, not these guys. Hopefully the WSJ article had a better source. ThreatConnect will take any random connection and a big brand name / country and crap out a report.
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