Why pay for this is uBlock Origin is free? I never asked for ads, and websites never asked to charge me. I'm not going to pay tons of cash to see -25% ads. Not gonna happen.
Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
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Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
#162I find these things interesting, but not so much I won't use an adblocker. Perhaps I can buy into this and allow google ads, and then block the resulting 'thanks' text. I don't need that either. I find the whole thing odd though. I never click ads when I do see them, I literally have never, ever bought anything through advertising links. Even without an adblocker, the only reason the site would be getting money from…
Even on the one or two occasions when I have seen an ad for something that I'm interested in, I never actually click the ad, but google the product specifically to avoid the whole redirect rigamarole that ensues anytime you click on a paid advertisement.
This is called a "view-through conversion". Just saying that it was still tracked and attributed, regardless of clicks.
Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
#163I find these things interesting, but not so much I won't use an adblocker. Perhaps I can buy into this and allow google ads, and then block the resulting 'thanks' text. I don't need that either. I find the whole thing odd though. I never click ads when I do see them, I literally have never, ever bought anything through advertising links. Even without an adblocker, the only reason the site would be getting money from…
You're missing the point of some types of advertising. There are typically 2 types of goals that an advertiser can be interested in- 1. Branding, 2. Direct Response. With "Branding" campaigns an advertiser just wants to get their name out there and very often, associated with a specific publisher (say Mercedes wants to be associated with The Economist)- the metrics that these types of campaigns are judged by are impr…
As I said, particularly with web advertising, if you've made me notice your brand then I will actively try to remember not to buy from you - I dislike advertising that much.
By viewing the ad I'm not ripping anyone off, no, but a page taking money for me viewing an ad would be, as the outcome for the advertiser is getting a best neutral and likely actually negative.
Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
#164Google Contributor can't work, for two reasons. 1. As soon as it becomes too widespread, Google will nerf it. They rely almost entirely on advertising for their revenues. There's just too much money for them to not water the scheme down in future. Remember when cable TV was going to be ad-free? 2. It only works inside Google's semi-walled garden. This is true of every microsubscription scheme so far built (Spotify, A…
> As soon as it becomes too widespread, Google will nerf it. They rely almost entirely on advertising for their revenues.
Contributor directly replaces advertising revenue; if it provides a better UX for end-users, sites that use exclusively traditional advertising rather than Google's model with Contributor will suffer reduced traffic (and thus, won't get money from advertising.)
If Contributor gets widespread, its good for Google, increases costs for advertisers to reach eyeballs (whether they use Google's ad network or not), and bad for ad networks other than Google's that don't do something like what Google is doing with Contributor.
> It only works inside Google's semi-walled garden.
It certainly only works on sites that actively choose to use Google's advertising network. I'm not sure that's a "walled garden" in any meaningful sense.
Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
#165I find these things interesting, but not so much I won't use an adblocker. Perhaps I can buy into this and allow google ads, and then block the resulting 'thanks' text. I don't need that either. I find the whole thing odd though. I never click ads when I do see them, I literally have never, ever bought anything through advertising links. Even without an adblocker, the only reason the site would be getting money from…
Even on the one or two occasions when I have seen an ad for something that I'm interested in, I never actually click the ad, but google the product specifically to avoid the whole redirect rigamarole that ensues anytime you click on a paid advertisement.
So it worked super in their favor: it got you to go to the product and they didn't have to pay for your click.
Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
#166Once everybody is paying to avoid looking at ads, what will be the point of advertising?
Ads will be sneakier. Product placements. Sponsored articles. Celebrity endorsements.
Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
#167I find these things interesting, but not so much I won't use an adblocker. Perhaps I can buy into this and allow google ads, and then block the resulting 'thanks' text. I don't need that either. I find the whole thing odd though. I never click ads when I do see them, I literally have never, ever bought anything through advertising links. Even without an adblocker, the only reason the site would be getting money from…
"In fact for any ad that's beyond static text I am more likely to remember your brand and deliberately not buy your stuff in future." I believe you when you say you don't click on things, but if it were possible to somehow objectively test this particular claim, I'd bet against it.
It's a hard one, but I really do hate advertising and visual clutter that much, and if I remember that I have been advertised at, particularly intrusive ads, I will try to avoid that brand.
These days as I don't read paper news and don't watch broadcast tv (I subscribe to netflix, prime and nowtv instead), I actually find ads in the cinema most offensive, because I can't escape easily.
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I'm not going to try to claim I'm totally immune to brand awareness campaigns that would be silly, but I do genuinely find it that annoying now.
Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
#168Google Contributor can't work, for two reasons. 1. As soon as it becomes too widespread, Google will nerf it. They rely almost entirely on advertising for their revenues. There's just too much money for them to not water the scheme down in future. Remember when cable TV was going to be ad-free? 2. It only works inside Google's semi-walled garden. This is true of every microsubscription scheme so far built (Spotify, A…
If it's patented, you can safely tell us more... how does your protocol work?
Excluding all the fiddly bits:
1. A user request comes with an added header with the user's version of events.
2. The provider adds their version of events and forwards it to an authenticator.
3. The authenticator cross checks the details and signatures and logs the transaction, optionally telling the provider "yes, this person is a paying participant".
I have a more detailed protocol writeup, which is easier to follow than the patent (which was lovingly converted to patentese by a lawyer). I'm at work, happy to email to interested parties. Best address to reach me is jacques@robojar.com
Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
#169Has anyone arrived at an estimate that puts the cost in terms of CPM?
I know that at least in terms of what makes it out to RTB across most of the exchanges, a person like me will account for about 1000 bid requests in a month. Even if we pad that significantly, there's a good chance I'd be paying paying a pretty rich CPM rate.
Given that folks who would likely sign up for this are probably not heavy clickers, my strong hunch is that Google is raking in a pretty fat margin. If an advertiser really wants you, they pay up and you see the ad. In other words, you're probably competing with advertisers to drive up the price of the impression.
Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads
#170The only time I clicked on an ad, it was an ad about a product in Amazon I previously intended to purchase but it didn't have stock.
My reaction was a "wow, does it have stock now??? let me hurry!!! what? no stock? why do you advertise a product without stock???"
After that moment, the ad kept following me during several days...