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Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by asimilator » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:09 PM UTC

bkanber wrote: post #16

This is fascinating. Business model: annoy people so much that they pay you to stop annoying them. Everybody's been talking about the death of display ads, and it looks like Google's paying attention and trying to figure out how to marginalize the ad itself, but still take money on the transaction. Eventually, Google could probably marginalize the ad so much that there are only a rare few display ads left online, and…

> Google has cleverly tricked us into keeping that industry aloft, essentially paying to keep something we hate alive.

We hate content creators?

Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by DiabloD3 » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:09 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #18

In terms of generating-revenue-without-running-ads, I do think Patreon is still a better option, as it both provides a consistent , nonseasonal revenue source for the author and content guarantees for the user; a win-win in both cases. Google Contributor is more of a charitable option which might be too subtle.

I agree, Patreon is a much saner model that content creators I actually care about are using.

Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by emergentcypher » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:09 PM UTC

hartator wrote: post #21

Has someone tried out to give his own view? It feels it doesn't address the other reasons people use ad blocking: - Fewer HTTP requests (Still have to do all the ad network requests) - Less tracking - Less CPU/RAM usage (Even if there is no render of ads, still have to process the JS from ad networks)

This is why I won't be using this.

I don't want ten different ad network javascripts being loaded and running on every single page, along with whatever assets they want to load up and all the tracking they do across websites.

And tracking is a huge one. This is no longer just a question of whether I'm supporting the site I visit. Whatever your site has to offer is not worth the all-encompassing tracking that the networks are doing. If it is, you'll have a subscription fee I can pay and your service will be valuable enough that I'll pay it.

Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by Klathmon » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:10 PM UTC

The best part about this is that you have really fine grained control over where your money goes.

Don't like it going to a specific site? You can disable just that site in the settings.

Want to replace ads with an image of something random? You can do that as well!

Want to only have contributor run on a few hand-picked sites? Can do that too!

A friend of mine has it setup so that it's whitelist only where he disables his adblock just for those sites, and allows contributor to work only on them.

It's actually a really nice and well thought out system.

Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by ksk » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:10 PM UTC

eli wrote: post #14

ksk wrote: post #5

> This is cool for several reasons: 4. Google gets paid, rather than all the money going to the actual website.

They are facilitating the entire process, processing the credit cards, cutting checks, sending tax forms... Even bitcoin transactions have fees.

According to you, what should be the fees?

Google's primary job is to make billions of dollars of profit. I believe an organization like that has all the more incentive to inflate the fees and pocket as much as possible.

Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by onion2k » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:10 PM UTC

xbryanx wrote: post #9

For the ~price of Netflix subscription, I only get 25-50% fewer ads? Nah...too expensive.

If it was any cheaper then people would believe ads have very little value which leads to thinking an ad-blocker isn't really harming anyone. I wouldn't be surprised if this product is really, at least in part, a PR move to get people to think seeing adverts is the equivalent of 'saving' $20/month for web content.

Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by johnward » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:10 PM UTC

delinka wrote: post #15

untog wrote: post #6

This is cool, but would it work on my Android browser (which is my main point of contention with ads)?

It works anywhere a Google ad works.

It's on the ad network side so I would expect it to work everywhere.

Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by maelito » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:11 PM UTC

So you can't try the website before paying right ?

Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by pmlnr » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:12 PM UTC

umm, https://flattr.com/, anyone?

Re: Give Google Contributor a try: Pay to remove ads

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Post by weinzierl » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 4:12 PM UTC

If I can do this anonymously I'm sold. I think there is a considerable overlap between the target group for this feature and the group of privacy aware people.

Let us create anonymous profiles, give us the possibility to pay via prepaid card and you will be our hero again, Google.