It seems quite logical that the Chinese don't want an OS that shovels data to the NSA. They want an OS that shovels data to their own agencies.
A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows
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Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows
#32Why are two girls sitting in the middle of the street?
And with a Macbook too.
In an article about cheap laptops sold with a Windows look-a-like Linux-distro.
It makes no sense what so ever, so I will have to assume this is a random stock-photo chosen without too much consideration.
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#33I wonder what spyware they have embedded in it?
A distro brought to you by the Chinese government. I would trust that as much as a distro brought to you by the NSA.
Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
It looks right to me. The adjectival clause describing the OS says "the Chinese government wants the OS to replace Windows". There's an implied "that" between "the OS" and "the Chinese government".
I see what you mean, but I don't think it's the implied 'that' that's problematic. The subject of the second clause is 'the Chinese government', the verb 'to want to', the object 'replace Windows'. This whole thing qualifies the first clause, 'the OS'. But the semantic relation between these two clauses ("with") is not established. It's like saying "A detailed look at the mountain John wants to dance with an elephant…
On the aside:
You are right that the sentence is ungrammatical if you take the object of "want" to be "replace Windows" and the subject of "replace" to be "the Chinese government". But it is grammatical if you analyze it as an instance of the construction "X wants Y to Z", where Y is (semantically) the subject of the infinitive Z.
To a first approximation, relative clauses in English are formed by taking a sentence and moving some noun phrase to the front, while optionally adding "that" after the moved noun phrase.
E.g., "I saw the man" -> "the man that I saw _" (where _ marks the place where "the man" would have been if it was a regular sentence; called the gap or trace in linguistics.)
In this case the transformation is "the Chinese government wants the OS to replace Windows" -> "the OS that the Chinese government wants _ to replace Windows."
I agree it sounds somewhat awkward.
Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows
#35Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
It looks right to me. The adjectival clause describing the OS says "the Chinese government wants the OS to replace Windows". There's an implied "that" between "the OS" and "the Chinese government".
I see what you mean, but I don't think it's the implied 'that' that's problematic. The subject of the second clause is 'the Chinese government', the verb 'to want to', the object 'replace Windows'. This whole thing qualifies the first clause, 'the OS'. But the semantic relation between these two clauses ("with") is not established. It's like saying "A detailed look at the mountain John wants to dance with an elephant…
"A detailed look at the mountain John wants to dance with an elephant" is perfectly grammatical. John wants the mountain to dance with an elephant. Let's take a detailed look at that mountain.
"Look at the car I want to buy." "Look at the horse I want to win the race." "Look at the OS I want to replace Windows."
Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows
#37The user interfaces for these are also very similar to those of Microsoft Office, and they work pretty well. One reason might be that, as one Chinese blogger analyzing NeoKylin (link in Chinese) found, NeoShine appears to be based on code originally in OpenOffice, a now-defunct open-source productivity suite. Why didn't they use LibreOffice?
LibreOffice was released in 2011, and this is apparently version 6.0 of NeoKylin, maybe they forked OpenOffice before the LibreOffice fork and haven't had the time/resources to switch.
Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows
#38I wonder what spyware they have embedded in it? A distro brought to you by the Chinese government. I would trust that as much as a distro brought to you by the NSA.
>I would trust that as much as a distro brought to you by the NSA.
So do you run a version of the Linux kernel where SELinux[0] has been merged into the mainline?
Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows
#39I wonder what spyware they have embedded in it? A distro brought to you by the Chinese government. I would trust that as much as a distro brought to you by the NSA.
>I would trust that as much as a distro brought to you by the NSA. So do you run a version of the Linux kernel where SELinux[0] has been merged into the mainline? [0] http://selinuxproject.org/page/Main_Page
Nope. I use apparmor. Interesting though. I didn't know that about SELinux.
Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows
#40They weren't joking when they said it would be a WinXP replacement. The look and feel is almost identical.