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A New Face for Pebble

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Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by rtpg »

jammur wrote: post #109
TeMPOraL wrote: post #93

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5-7 day battery life and always-on, e-paper-like color screen. This enables you to use Pebble as an actual watch, or in general as an information radiator - you don't have to interact with it in any way to see the data you need; you just have to look at it. They had these features (sans color) before Apple Watch / Android Wear even existed! What personally made me buy Pebble over Android Wear / Apple Watch was not po…

> 5-7 day battery life and always-on, e-paper-like color screen. This enables you to use Pebble as an actual watch I'm not sure why the "always-on" aspect is an advantage. The Apple Watch display turns on when I raise my wrist to look at it. Always-on seems more like a vanity feature than actually useful. If you aren't looking at it, it serves no purpose to be on. The battery life has never been a problem for me. I p…

>The battery life has never been a problem for me. I put the watch on it's charger when I get in bed, and take it off when I wake up. I don't think I've ever hit as a comparison, I can take my pebble to a very long weekend and not bring the cable and still be fine. The battery lasts 5 days in pretty normal circumstances

Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by ant6n »

lemevi wrote: post #99
charlie_vill wrote: post #11

I've always been a huge fan of "the underdog" Sure this isn't an Apple Watch or a Moto 360, but Pebble has truly created a beautiful product and I respect that. Great work to the guys at Pebble.

If the screen is anything like the Pebble Time it wont be beautiful. I love my PT but depending on the watchface the screen isn't easily readable in anything other than outdoor or very bright indoor lighting. There's a light up button, that helps. The colors are also very muted. The value of a Pebble watch in my opinion is all in its practical utility, where it really shines. I have been careful to manage what sends…

For me the issues is the bezel. It's so big that it makes the phone big while simultaneously making the screen tiny.

Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by takeda »

jammur wrote: post #110
djsumdog wrote: post #89

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It doesn't really do anything the other two don't. The bid difference that I think people are trying to state is that no one really uses any of those other features. Not really. Pebble gives you notifications, time ... new ones give you heart rate monitors (I think?). You don't get those other features no one else cares about, but you do get like five days of battery life. I'm still on my Pebble Steel and I still rea…

> The bid difference that I think people are trying to state is that no one really uses any of those other features. Not really. I'm curious which features you are referring to? I have no need for 5 day battery life on my watch. Would it be great? Hell yeah. However, I also have no problem tossing my watch on the charger when I get in bed, just as I do with my phone.

Features like: answering phone through the watch, drawing, playing tic tac toe or other games (pebble also has some games, but it is quite silly to play games on watch), sending heart beats to someone else, or emoji.

That's I think all Apple Watch offers that pebble doesn't. I did not mention measuring pulse, because it is useful if you use watch for fitness tracking.

Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by jammur »

girvo wrote: post #128
jammur wrote: post #109

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> 5-7 day battery life and always-on, e-paper-like color screen. This enables you to use Pebble as an actual watch I'm not sure why the "always-on" aspect is an advantage. The Apple Watch display turns on when I raise my wrist to look at it. Always-on seems more like a vanity feature than actually useful. If you aren't looking at it, it serves no purpose to be on. The battery life has never been a problem for me. I p…

> The Apple Watch display turns on when I raise my wrist to look at it This is one of those features that has to be 100% perfect for it to work in this form factor, and based on my colleagues Apple Watch (base model), that is not the case. In addition, I don't always turn my wrist to see my Pebble -- I don't need to. This is a small feature but saying its not actually useful is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion.

> This is one of those features that has to be 100% perfect for it to work in this form factor

As an Apple Watch owner, I can state that this is not the case for me, and thus it clearly doesn't have to be 100% perfect. Might it frustrate some people? Sure.

The tradeoff is that my watch can do many more useful things than the Pebble. The additional features are significantly more valuable to me than multiple day battery life and an always-on screen.

> This is a small feature but saying its not actually useful is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion.

I think we have different definitions of "absolutely ridiculous".

Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

dfar1 wrote: post #68

Great company, great watch. But boy how they struggle to keep that bezel small. All generations have that huge bezel.

Same and many of their images are really, really misleading like when they show a black clock face with the black bezel makes the watch look AWESOME with a great sized screen.

Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by megablast »

girvo wrote: post #128
jammur wrote: post #109

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> 5-7 day battery life and always-on, e-paper-like color screen. This enables you to use Pebble as an actual watch I'm not sure why the "always-on" aspect is an advantage. The Apple Watch display turns on when I raise my wrist to look at it. Always-on seems more like a vanity feature than actually useful. If you aren't looking at it, it serves no purpose to be on. The battery life has never been a problem for me. I p…

> The Apple Watch display turns on when I raise my wrist to look at it This is one of those features that has to be 100% perfect for it to work in this form factor, and based on my colleagues Apple Watch (base model), that is not the case. In addition, I don't always turn my wrist to see my Pebble -- I don't need to. This is a small feature but saying its not actually useful is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion.

It works for me, except for when I am cycling and want to look at the time.

Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by zxv »

amelius wrote: post #117
aetherson wrote: post #58

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That all sounds right, except... I don't think that the Apple Watch or at least some Android Wear watches are aimed at a "geeky" audience. And I don't think that anyone has found anything more compelling than "receive notifications" to use Apple or Android watches for.

> And I don't think that anyone has found anything more compelling than "receive notifications" to use Apple or Android watches for. I'd like to use a smartwatch for 2-factor authentication.

QuickAuth can be used on various Pebble models for 2-factor authentication on google, dropbox, lastpass, and others.

http://apps.getpebble.com/en_US/application/53131df8bb31cf87...

I feel it's safer than 2-factor using my phone because I might let someone else handle my phone to make a call, etc., but never my watch. Plus, I can invoke it faster than I can on the phone.

Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by taneq »

Question for people who own Pebble watches - have you read the Pebble privacy policy? They track a ridiculous amount of stuff (everything from your GPS location and activity to what other apps you run on your phone), log it indefinitely (literally 'for a period of time') in personally identifiable form, and reserve the right to sell your data to third parties. It baffles me how people can be OK with this.

Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by ekianjo »

taneq wrote: post #138

Question for people who own Pebble watches - have you read the Pebble privacy policy? They track a ridiculous amount of stuff (everything from your GPS location and activity to what other apps you run on your phone), log it indefinitely (literally 'for a period of time') in personally identifiable form, and reserve the right to sell your data to third parties. It baffles me how people can be OK with this.

There is not way to prevent the watch from sharing such information ?

Re: A New Face for Pebble

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Post by monomooner »

nostromo wrote: post #86
kozukumi wrote: post #48

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You realise you are posting on Hacker News not the Daily Mail yes? This is a heavily technology focused community and in the wonderful world of technology things change. Quickly. Complaining about a new product coming out is quite baffling to me. Perhaps your post would make sense if they had announced they were only going to develop and support this product going forward but they didn't so I find your post quite out…

It's a fair criticism. They even felt the need to address it in their announcement. If Apple released a new Apple Watch tomorrow, early adopters would feel cheated and may think twice about buying future products so quickly. The Kickstarter approach exacerbates this problem. I understand that many people that bought the last Pebble product don't even have it in their hands yet.

Note Apple did release new Apple Watches last week: the Apple Watch Sport in Gold and Rose Gold and Apple Watch Hermes. My cousin feels cheated as she would have preferred the rose gold or splurging on Hermes instead of settling for a grey with milanese loop earlier this year.
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