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Re: Chris Poole

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Post by CuttlefishXXX »

janny_throwaway wrote: post #46
irl_zebra wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc." (I'm assuming cp means children) "The good news is that I've recently returned to 4chan as a regular, anonymous user, and I'm really enjoying it." I've never visited the site, and really don't want to. So maybe I'm missing something, but why would you want to associate yourself with a place like that? It seems like even spending time there as an anonymous user would change y…

Unlike reddit, 4chan is not a popularity contest. There are no likes or upvotes that dictate what you see; everyone in a thread sees the same content. Furthermore, there are no persistent identities, so you have no way of gauging the value of someone's post other than by examining its content. I think this dynamic is what made 4chan such a creative force: the only way for a post to "live" longer than one thread was t…

>Having browsed for 7 years now

Most people I've talked to had their first exposure to 4chan (well, just /b/ really -- it takes some time to discover that there's more to 4chan) at an age of around 16, so I'm going to guess you're about 23 years old now. Am I right?

Re: Chris Poole

#52

Post by ljk »

stevebmark wrote: post #42

Is this article just saying "running an internet community is hard?" Pat on the back to someone who created the one of the most actively harassing communities online? TL;DR I knew moot?

Eh not saying 4chan is the perfect community, but many online communities are just as, if not more, "actively harassing". There are other sections outside of /b/

Re: Chris Poole

#53

Post by ljk »

marincounty wrote: post #41
mahranch wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I honestly don't think the two are even comparable. Moderating a large subreddit on reddit is infinitely harder and more complex than 4chan. Some of the larger subreddits see more pageviews than the entirety of 4chan. Moving beyond that, moderators on 4chan are completely anonymous unless they choose to be known. This isn't the case with reddit. Moderators often have to have a lon…

Does Reddit pay you for moderation? I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. It's not like they don't have throw around money? I can take some Reddit, but get tired pretty quick. One joke is funny, but 50 quips just reminds me how I loate humans. (Not loathe--just dissapointed.) Kinda like the feeling I get when I'm on Facebook longer than a few minutes? They build it, and people came. People opened t…

> I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay.

Probably not a good idea considering the drama and mod abuse that's happened in the past...

Re: Chris Poole

#54

Post by resonanttoe »

I don't disagree with any of the assertions in the... article(?).

But whats the point of this and why does it need attention?

Communities feel ownership. Owners have conflicting responsibilities. The bigger the community the bigger Points 1 & 2 are. All true, but relevance to anything of anything?

Very strange posting.

Re: Chris Poole

#55

Post by ousta »

to me it is as if the internet as an invention culminated with 4chan. it is indeed a big moment to see the most humble genius - and probably the one big who never made big money out of his visions - of this internet bubble handover to someone much more like what we could expect of an owner of a crazy board. 4chan is for me a fantastic website, laboratory and show on what mankind can bring to us. It led me to be depressive far too many times, led me to mistrusts humans and sometimes try to trust again, led me to think that any other media was boring, any other activity was second to it.

I don't buy the stuff people adoring steve jobs or mark zuckerberg buy. those tech marketers who selling themselves as icons, stars and some idealistic values of what america is. Rather than that I buy an idea of the internet that is encompassed in the character of Chris Poole, an humble guy who created something far much bigger than him and got shit happening to him as his baby demon was out of control. This guy is like the inventor of tetris. a forgotten genius that will never earn anything out of his invention but will still make more smiles on faces than any google or facebook.

Re: Chris Poole

#56

Post by dang »

Dragonai wrote: post #10

I think it's pretty safe to say that no one's really been through an experience remotely similar to Chris's. There's no community like 4chan, with respect to both its scale and its pervasiveness in both internet and real-life culture. Being at the heart of such a community through its high and low moments is an enormous load to bear, and Chris shouldered that responsibility for 12 years without buckling. Huge congrat…

This is a perceptive point. Chris' achievement is deeply impressive in far from obvious ways. The more one learns about it, the more impressive it gets. It's pleasing to see a post honoring him do so well here. Good luck, Chris!

Re: Chris Poole

#57

Post by krapp »

icebraining wrote: post #34
irl_zebra wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc." (I'm assuming cp means children) "The good news is that I've recently returned to 4chan as a regular, anonymous user, and I'm really enjoying it." I've never visited the site, and really don't want to. So maybe I'm missing something, but why would you want to associate yourself with a place like that? It seems like even spending time there as an anonymous user would change y…

Not everyone considers "deviant" a pejorative word :) 4chan is honesty where most everything else is façade. I enjoy the feel, even if not every day.

4chan isn't "honest". Anonymity without consequence might make honesty easier, but it makes deception easier as well.

Re: Chris Poole

#58

Post by icebraining »

krapp wrote: post #57
icebraining wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone considers "deviant" a pejorative word :) 4chan is honesty where most everything else is façade. I enjoy the feel, even if not every day.

4chan isn't "honest". Anonymity without consequence might make honesty easier, but it makes deception easier as well.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply I believe what I read or see on 4chan; it's more about the way people interact with each other. Like I said, it's more of a feeling than anything else.

Re: Chris Poole

#59

Post by eertami »

marincounty wrote: post #41
mahranch wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I honestly don't think the two are even comparable. Moderating a large subreddit on reddit is infinitely harder and more complex than 4chan. Some of the larger subreddits see more pageviews than the entirety of 4chan. Moving beyond that, moderators on 4chan are completely anonymous unless they choose to be known. This isn't the case with reddit. Moderators often have to have a lon…

Does Reddit pay you for moderation? I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. It's not like they don't have throw around money? I can take some Reddit, but get tired pretty quick. One joke is funny, but 50 quips just reminds me how I loate humans. (Not loathe--just dissapointed.) Kinda like the feeling I get when I'm on Facebook longer than a few minutes? They build it, and people came. People opened t…

>Does Reddit pay you for moderation?

There are enough people that see moderating a subreddit as a source of power that they simply don't have to, new mods would always be available for free.

>It's not like they don't have throw around money?

Uhh, reddit hemorrhages money, every attempt at profitability has failed. Paying moderators would provide no value.

Re: Chris Poole

#60

Post by moron4hire »

janny_throwaway wrote: post #46
irl_zebra wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc." (I'm assuming cp means children) "The good news is that I've recently returned to 4chan as a regular, anonymous user, and I'm really enjoying it." I've never visited the site, and really don't want to. So maybe I'm missing something, but why would you want to associate yourself with a place like that? It seems like even spending time there as an anonymous user would change y…

Unlike reddit, 4chan is not a popularity contest. There are no likes or upvotes that dictate what you see; everyone in a thread sees the same content. Furthermore, there are no persistent identities, so you have no way of gauging the value of someone's post other than by examining its content. I think this dynamic is what made 4chan such a creative force: the only way for a post to "live" longer than one thread was t…

I don't think the lack of upvotes means there isn't still a popularity contest going on. There is still a lot of posting done just to try to get as big of a reaction as possible out of people. Some people even talk about their activity on 4chan through other side-channels, like IRC or even in-person. People brag about their exploits to other people. It may not have a number attached to it, but it's really nothing but a popularity contest.
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