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Announcing Meteor 1.2 – ES2015, Angular, React, and More

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It's not just useful for SEO; isomorphic React apps render much quicker on first load and for deep linking into your app.

> isomorphic React apps render much quicker on first load source?

This is a hard generalization to make, but it's certainly true in the worst network condition case. Even if your client-side rendering happens instantaneously and your JS is (magically) 1kB, it's still 2 round trips before you can render anything instead of 1 (well, 4 instead of 3 for TCP connect, SSL handshake, HTML response). On poor mobile connections, a roundtrip will be 500ms+, so if you can render in less time than that on the server, it'll feel faster.

Re: Announcing Meteor 1.2 – ES2015, Angular, React, and More

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I've been on/off using Meteor for the past year. I think meteor has the potential to be the stack for developing applications in the future.

There are a few things that keep me off using Meteor.

Non MongoDB DB support

First class routing, recently the community seems to be moving away from iron router to flow router, but most of the community packages are using iron router. From my readings, they dont seem to be easily interoperable.

Interop with blaze (default view). With support for React, how do the existing community packages built with blaze be used with React

Re: Announcing Meteor 1.2 – ES2015, Angular, React, and More

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I'll jump on when they have first-class support for a DB that isn't Mongo.

It's coming! MDG is focusing 100% on their Heroku-like platform called Galaxy and once that's done they may push on to relational database support.

Graph DBs support is ok too :)

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Same experience here as well. I don't think either that Meteor is going to become de facto platform for all web development, but it's definitely going to be one of the main ones along with Angular, React and Rails.

I'm curious - do you think there is room for someone to come along with the right combination of stuff to become the "de facto platform for all web development"? It's interesting also that people always talk about Rails but don't mention JSP and .NET, which I think are actually a lot more popular last time I looked around. I guess it depends on who you ask. I feel like JavaScript is in a sweet spot right now because…

I honestly think that with some good marketing, Meteor can be on top when they get SQL support.

Re: Announcing Meteor 1.2 – ES2015, Angular, React, and More

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Does this release include support for ES2015 modules?

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>Meteor 1.2 will be the first step in making that seamless development experience: we're adding support for all its features except for modules

Oops. Didn't see that. This is a bit of a bummer. It'd be great to use ES2015 modules in Meteor packages. I hope there is plans to support them in the near future

Re: Announcing Meteor 1.2 – ES2015, Angular, React, and More

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For those with experience integrating Meteor with Angular, can you describe the benefits and tradeoffs? Been looking to supplement or replace Angular's $resource with something a little higher-level on CRUD-heavy applications. Is Meteor a reasonable choice, or am I misunderstanding it's core value proposition?

If you're looking to replace $resource (a poor abstraction layer), you should create your own client-side model layer, or look into a library like js-data (http://www.js-data.io/docs/js-data-angular/)

Re: Announcing Meteor 1.2 – ES2015, Angular, React, and More

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for people experienced with meteor - is there solid support for postgres backend? i really like it, but details on sql backends support is spotty

It's being worked on. There are some packages that provide postgres support (https://atmospherejs.com/?q=postgres) but not in core just yet.

Re: Announcing Meteor 1.2 – ES2015, Angular, React, and More

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Does this release include support for ES2015 modules? Edit: >Meteor 1.2 will be the first step in making that seamless development experience: we're adding support for all its features except for modules Oops. Didn't see that. This is a bit of a bummer. It'd be great to use ES2015 modules in Meteor packages. I hope there is plans to support them in the near future

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