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Re: Oyster is shutting down

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AWS

I highly doubt that. Unless something was disastrously wrong in their design, the opex for cloud services should have been dwarfed by little things like payroll and office expenses.

It was a $17M joke, much like Oyster.

Re: Oyster is shutting down

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An acquihire is the implied alternative. I'm not sure why companies would ever acquihire when they could do this with the appropriate signing bonus.

Because there are assets other than just the people. Code, network relationships, reputation, service contracts, company partnerships, IP, etc. There can also be non-competes, NDAs, security clearances, stock vesting and a multitude of other agreements to factor in.

Non competes are unenforceable in California.

Re: Oyster is shutting down

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Taken without any external context, this release is nonsensical, probably because they don't bother to say why they're shutting down or what the new opportunity is. "Looking forward, we feel this is best seized by taking on new opportunities to fully realize our vision for ebooks." By... shutting down? I would have appreciated a bit of plain-speaking here.

It is possible for a company or its assets to be acquired without public acknowledgement of the deal. I'm not suggesting that this was the case, just a possibility.

I understand that Apple generally doesn't announce its acquisitions:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/21/tight-lipped-apple...

Re: Oyster is shutting down

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So I'm not clear on this, was the employment agreement done before or after Oysterbooks officially announced that it was shutting down? BC that makes a difference...I find it odd that Google declined to comment to comment. Anyhow, great idea and really sad that it didn't work out.

Re: Oyster is shutting down

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It's worth noting that Oyster raised a total of $17M as of last year: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/oysterbooks-com Runway has its limits.

Wow. What'd they burn it on?

I'm going to guess negative ROI advertising was a huge chunk. I saw their banners and whatnot on Facebook and elsewhere nearly constantly.

Re: Oyster is shutting down

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> With that, we will be taking steps to sunset the existing Oyster service over the next several months.

If you have a company with a product and the product is being discontinued is it really so hard to just say that in English? The word "sunset" isn't even a verb.

Re: Oyster is shutting down

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Can someone explain the math here? 2012 they received 3M in seed funding. 2014 they received 14M USD. The picture on that boat shows 26 (?) people. So let's assume 26 people were always in the company just for kicks.

Between 2012 October and 2015 September they ran out of 17M USD. That's a burn rate of 5.67M USD per year.

For 26 employees, if we stupidly assumed no other costs, that nearly 218k USD salary per year.

Obviously that's not right. Let's assume they paid an average of 100k USD per year to each employee. That's 2.6M USD burnt for salaries. Which means that infrastructure, ad spend, and administrative costs and taxes (?) came to just over 3M USD per year.

And that's assuming they received ZERO money while they were running. Which is of course a load of tosh.

I'm unaware of the US market's costs in running a business but those numbers seem abnormal. Am I missing something here or does this seem plausible?

Re: Oyster is shutting down

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Kindle unlimited. Also, I don't think there's as big of a market as they thought for people who wanted to pay one fee for all you can read.

I tried Oyster and ended up canceling after discovering that the books I wanted weren't available. The case is the same with Kindle unlimited. The problem is that publishers make sure that the high demand books just aren't available via an "all you can read" plan so these end up with the scraps.

The alternative is a brick-and-mortar library system, where high demand books have six-month-long waitlists. But at least those high demand books are available.

Re: Oyster is shutting down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there are assets other than just the people. Code, network relationships, reputation, service contracts, company partnerships, IP, etc. There can also be non-competes, NDAs, security clearances, stock vesting and a multitude of other agreements to factor in.

Non competes are unenforceable in California.

I know, it is a shock, but tech companies are allowed to exist outside of California. Case in point: "© 2015 OYSTER - BUILT IN NEW YORK"
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