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Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quora permanently lost me several years ago when they suddenly forced me to select five categories of interest before I could continue to the question I was interested in. Forcing me to do something I have no interest in and will never make use of is a good way to alienate me.

Quora requires registration to simply read it. That's at least going to lose them viewers who don't want to bother.

Iirc you can get around this by appending ?share=1

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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HTTP ERROR 418 Wrong Client The client you are using does not currently have access to this resource but may in the future as specified by the Expires header in the response. The user should either switch to a supported client as specified in the response body to access this resource or the current client should retry at the specified date. The current client MUST NOT retry the resource before the specified date.

HTTP 418 is already reserved for teapots whom have been requested to make coffee (RFC2324, section 2.3.2[0])

[0] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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post #58

HTTP ERROR 418 Wrong Client The client you are using does not currently have access to this resource but may in the future as specified by the Expires header in the response. The user should either switch to a supported client as specified in the response body to access this resource or the current client should retry at the specified date. The current client MUST NOT retry the resource before the specified date.

"Wrong Client" as in:

    HTTP ERROR 418 YOU'RE a teapot

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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I imagine their bounce rate will be very high if they continue doing this. Other news sites have done similar things such as make you participate in a survey before reading the article. In order for me to open this article before September 22, I would have to copy that link, paste it into an email to myself, open Mail on my phone, and open the link from my own email.

Don't bother, on the 22nd, it will probably be one of the top titles on Hacker News: "Remember this article that used to be exclusive on Apple News? Now you can read it!".

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Wired will be losing ad revenue due to Apple adding ad blocking abilities to mobile Safari. So, Wired moves content to Apple News which has ads that can't be blocked (and Apple conveniently takes a nice juicy cut of).

It's almost certain that Apple's long game is to make this the norm. If there's one surefire way to get people addicted to ad blockers, it's to make them available on mobile devices. Once enough content creators start moving content behind News-walls, then Apple can roll out desktop versions of News. And as people then start asking each other "how do I get ad blocking in my browser as well," Apple's well positioned t…

I don't think you're taking into account that websites are free to create their own apps, and advertise there. There's little incentive for a content creator to have their content off the net, and into someone else's apps.

Im not understanding Wired's motivation here, but I'm not too concerned because Wired isn't the most intelligent publication in the first place.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The title you're reading is what we changed it to. The submitted title was "This story is exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday". We changed it to an exact quote from the article and put it in quotation marks. p.s. Please don't use uppercase for emphasis: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html .

How do we make text bold for emphasis? or should we just use UTF characters for that?

How do I make the dots on my "i"s into little love hearts to show how much I love the reader?

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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This reminds me of the early days of CompuServe and Prodigy, which had exclusive content*. It worked for a while until the open web became the bigger audience that dwarfed all others. I think the big players now may be repeating patterns of the past. Open standards tend to trump closed platforms over time. If this is the case it presents an opportunity to create a new open version of what Apple is doing now. Web 4.0?…

>Open standards tend to trump closed platforms over time.

The opposite is true, and what is happening to the Internet is another example. Telephone, Radio, and Film used to be open but they have since been cornered by cartels. Tim Wu explains this excellently in his book, "The Master Switch."

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Wired will be losing ad revenue due to Apple adding ad blocking abilities to mobile Safari. So, Wired moves content to Apple News which has ads that can't be blocked (and Apple conveniently takes a nice juicy cut of).

I'm pretty sure they only take a cut of ads sold through their iAd system and take 0% cut for ads sold directly by the publication.

Yes and no. This is basically a little bit disingenuous.

Today, most publications will use something like DoubleClick to manage their ads, sell a bunch directly to specific companies, setup bidding on some others via another provider hooked into the same system, and then use Google AdSense for the remnant inventory.

From my reading of it, on Apple News, you're required to use iAd to manage the inventory. iAd allows you to do direct sales through it's own system. And then all the rest are remnant and handled through iAd. Apple locks out all other players from that large part of the ad market, including Google. Knowing Apple... especially Google.

It's a brilliant two-pronged strategy to lock content providers and consumers into the Apple ecosystem.

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