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Re: Promisees – JavaScript Promises Visualization

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Post by callahad »

finalight wrote: post #3

can someone explain to me is ES7 tied to the browser version/type, or usually all the popular browsers support it out of the box? because I couldn't find any information on that

Like other web standards, these things tend to get implemented in a piecemeal fashion according to consensus and demand. By the time the standards are published, much of their content is already implemented in modern browsers.

For example, the ES6 spec was just published a few months ago, so it will still be a year before we see ES7. In spite of that, the async / await capabilities are sufficiently compelling and agreed upon that patches are already being reviewed for Firefox: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1185106

Kangax's tables, linked in another reply, are a great way to check what the support situation is like across browsers.

Re: Promisees – JavaScript Promises Visualization

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Post by conical »

callahad wrote: post #9
bluepnume wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than just syntactic sugar. async/await changes the whole control flow of a method.

You can actually get identical semantics, and almost identical syntax, by abusing ES6 generators, so it is just syntactic sugar: https://gist.github.com/callahad/b99c83d6d9fd675137b7

Does the phrase "syntactic sugar" have any meaning? Name a new language feature that "it is just syntactic sugar" can't be applied to.

Re: Promisees – JavaScript Promises Visualization

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Post by callahad »

conical wrote: post #12
callahad wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can actually get identical semantics, and almost identical syntax, by abusing ES6 generators, so it is just syntactic sugar: https://gist.github.com/callahad/b99c83d6d9fd675137b7

Does the phrase "syntactic sugar" have any meaning? Name a new language feature that "it is just syntactic sugar" can't be applied to.

Sure, ES6 WeakMap and WeakSet can't be implemented without native support in the runtime.

Or, for that matter, const. Though perhaps const is just syntatic sugar for not reassigning to the same darn name? ;)

Re: Promisees – JavaScript Promises Visualization

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Post by conical »

callahad wrote: post #13
conical wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the phrase "syntactic sugar" have any meaning? Name a new language feature that "it is just syntactic sugar" can't be applied to.

Sure, ES6 WeakMap and WeakSet can't be implemented without native support in the runtime. Or, for that matter, const. Though perhaps const is just syntatic sugar for not reassigning to the same darn name? ;)

Const is a pretty good example, the closest I can think to emulating it in es5 is something like:

Object.defineProperty(this, 'five', { enumerable: true, writable: false, value: 5, configurable: false });

If in global scope, 'five' will look like a const.

WeakMap and WeakSet have polyfills with minor caveats.

I guess you're defining language features as not "syntactic sugar" if they can't be absolutely 100% polyfilled.

Re: Promisees – JavaScript Promises Visualization

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Post by tracker1 »

AgentME wrote: post #8
iyn wrote: post #2

Promises are better than being stuck in callback hell, but ES7 async functions (async/await) are way better: http://www.sitepoint.com/simplifying-asynchronous-coding-es7... The best part: you can use it today with babel (I'm using it in browser and on node thanks to the power of webpack, babel and hot reloading).

async/await works with promises, it doesn't replace them.

I think it's important to understand this, as when you are interacting with other modules that return promises, you need to know that you can await those, as well as that async functions return promises that can be used as them without being inside another async function.

Re: Promisees – JavaScript Promises Visualization

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Post by bluepnume »

callahad wrote: post #9
bluepnume wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than just syntactic sugar. async/await changes the whole control flow of a method.

You can actually get identical semantics, and almost identical syntax, by abusing ES6 generators, so it is just syntactic sugar: https://gist.github.com/callahad/b99c83d6d9fd675137b7

Agreed, it's syntactic sugar over es6 generators. But I don't agree that it's just syntactic sugar over promises, which is what the parent comment asserted.
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