“This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday” • Hacker News Board

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by z1mm32m4n » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:20 AM UTC

danboarder wrote: post #23

This reminds me of the early days of CompuServe and Prodigy, which had exclusive content*. It worked for a while until the open web became the bigger audience that dwarfed all others. I think the big players now may be repeating patterns of the past. Open standards tend to trump closed platforms over time. If this is the case it presents an opportunity to create a new open version of what Apple is doing now. Web 4.0?…

> Open standards tend to trump closed platforms over time.

I certainly hope this is the case, because it scares me how much content is being centralized in Facebook in particular.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by fixxer » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:21 AM UTC

Well, looks like somebody found a "cure" for adblock ;)

I miss the Wired of ten years ago. Now whenever I pick one up I am immensely disappointed by the hype and marketing. I remember it being more rigorous with respect to both journalism and technical acumen.

Edit: or not, per other post regarding adblock coming soon to apple.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by SyneRyder » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:21 AM UTC

This could backfire. Surely this should result in a Google penalty against Wired.com for publishing thin content?

https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2604719?hl=en

If Wired wants the article to be exclusive on Apple News, fine, but in that case it should not be on the website. Keep it exclusively on Apple News. There is no content on this page beyond a headline.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by chejazi » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:22 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #7

nathancahill wrote: post #4

Mods, please DON'T change this title. The post would become completely non-sensical.

The title you're reading is what we changed it to. The submitted title was "This story is exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday". We changed it to an exact quote from the article and put it in quotation marks. p.s. Please don't use uppercase for emphasis: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html .

Come Tuesday it won't be an exact quote anymore.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by cobweb » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:24 AM UTC

I don't get it. I go to wired, I follow the link to apple, and I get bounced back to wired???

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by nailer » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:25 AM UTC

cobweb wrote: post #35

I don't get it. I go to wired, I follow the link to apple, and I get bounced back to wired???

Ditto. iOS 9 too.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by r00fus » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:26 AM UTC

narrator wrote: post #11

lfam wrote: post #8

Apple is implementing a content paywall at the device level.

Theory: Apple wants to defeat Google by eliminating ads and making the purchase of the device the amortized payment for content. Analysis: The problem with this strategy is that Apple is going to have to scale to all the content in the world, in foreign languages, on obscure or controversial topics on a million blogs. Super niche content will fade, starved of app revenue and have to rely on native IOS ad with unblock…

Apple doesn't believe in the long tail. They target the profitable niches first and work downwards. They don't need to compete in all Googles markets.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by cobweb » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:27 AM UTC

cobweb wrote: post #35

I don't get it. I go to wired, I follow the link to apple, and I get bounced back to wired???

On reading it for the third time, I noticed the word app, which I must have missed before.

So it's exclusive to the apple eco-system and probably pay-walled. I think I get it now.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by softbuilder » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:27 AM UTC

fixxer wrote: post #32

Well, looks like somebody found a "cure" for adblock ;) I miss the Wired of ten years ago. Now whenever I pick one up I am immensely disappointed by the hype and marketing. I remember it being more rigorous with respect to both journalism and technical acumen. Edit: or not, per other post regarding adblock coming soon to apple.

>I miss the Wired of ten years ago.

This is what I said ten years ago! In truth Wired has always been a lot of hand-wavy hype wrapped around bits of legit interest. I think you just outgrow it eventually.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by bandicity » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 4:28 AM UTC

burntwater wrote: post #17

lerxst wrote: post #3

I imagine their bounce rate will be very high if they continue doing this. Other news sites have done similar things such as make you participate in a survey before reading the article. In order for me to open this article before September 22, I would have to copy that link, paste it into an email to myself, open Mail on my phone, and open the link from my own email.

Quora permanently lost me several years ago when they suddenly forced me to select five categories of interest before I could continue to the question I was interested in. Forcing me to do something I have no interest in and will never make use of is a good way to alienate me.

Quora requires registration to simply read it.

That's at least going to lose them viewers who don't want to bother.