Wow, very interesting to see how much of the infrastructure directly or indirectly depends on AWS.
AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
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Re: AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
From Heroku Status Page: > Our service provider is still working towards resolution of this issue. We will update when we have news, or in 1 hour. I wonder why they don't tell that AWS is their service provider. Is it wrong to make the information less obscure?
> I wonder why they don't tell that AWS is their service provider. It's because Heroku's choice of vendors shouldn't matter to their customers. They see it as an implementation detail, and their responsibility to manage. So I don't think that's an obfuscation. The people I know at Heroku all have an attitude of, "The buck stops here."
That's just stupid. Heroku rarely gives a proper technical explanation of their outages and under reports the length and severity of them drastically.
I assume this is to maintain their SLA. We really need independent third parties to record uptime for SLAs instead of trusting hosts to do it themselves.
This outage may be the last straw with Heroku for me. They've also previously stated years ago that they would end their dependance on AWS East and yet today shows that obviously hasn't happened.
Re: AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
#133For ADHD I would recommend Concerta/Ritalin/Adderall; that would enable you to read for not just a few seconds more but even minutes more before you judge. (I'm not joking here, I'm using 36mg Concerta for about about 4yrs now. Before that I also often came across as an asshole.) There is also a less evasive way of improving your online communication quality: http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html
Are you "Da Tom" in datomic? I'd suggest you be a tad more polite to those who ask honest questions or make statements of opinion here. And if you are "da tom", do you really want to alienate a potential customer or should you take their message to heart? I'm not going to bother looking at your page (and I don't need medication for it), but I'd guess there's no elevator pitch.
A Datom in datomic is not a person, its a 5 value entry: [entity, attribute, value, transaction, added]
Just to clarify since you appear to be linking the 'onetom' to the project, but I can't see any evidence she is in any way related.
Re: AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you "Da Tom" in datomic? I'd suggest you be a tad more polite to those who ask honest questions or make statements of opinion here. And if you are "da tom", do you really want to alienate a potential customer or should you take their message to heart? I'm not going to bother looking at your page (and I don't need medication for it), but I'd guess there's no elevator pitch.
A Datom in datomic is not a person, its a 5 value entry: [entity, attribute, value, transaction, added] Just to clarify since you appear to be linking the 'onetom' to the project, but I can't see any evidence she is in any way related.
I've clearly failed in my attempt to be humorous (while making a point I hope) ... Sorry for the confusion!
Re: AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
#135For ADHD I would recommend Concerta/Ritalin/Adderall; that would enable you to read for not just a few seconds more but even minutes more before you judge. (I'm not joking here, I'm using 36mg Concerta for about about 4yrs now. Before that I also often came across as an asshole.) There is also a less evasive way of improving your online communication quality: http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html
The feedback is valid. If they can't figure it out in 10 minutes, then they can't figure it out. It doesn't help that the inner workings are obfuscated through multiple license agreements and hidden/closed source. We are constrained by time. We can't invest our time into investigating every claim that we come across. Drugs can help some, but they are not necessarily the answer in all cases (including this case).
nadam said 10 seconds, not minutes.
we are using the starter version combined with dynamodb in production and we found the payment structure very clear; no obfuscation whatsoever, unlike a microsoft or adobe pricing matrix ;) (it's made by the same guy who made the very open source clojure programming language, btw, and he is very much against obfuscation)
anyway, it's a competitive advantage for those guys' who are building a bank on top of it in brazil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lm3K8zVOdY). we feel we can avoid writing a lot of authorization and audit log code by using datomic, maybe u can save such work too.
Re: AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
#136Great! Almost every takeaway in Dublin has moved to Zuppler for their online ordering... Zuppler is hosted out of AWS.
Re: AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
From Heroku Status Page: > Our service provider is still working towards resolution of this issue. We will update when we have news, or in 1 hour. I wonder why they don't tell that AWS is their service provider. Is it wrong to make the information less obscure?
Because it is kind of awkward PR for Salesforce: come build on our platform! Oh by the way we haven't even moved Heroku, a company that we bought 4 years ago, over to it yet.
They will never be able to move Heroku of AWS. Their customers depend on being on the same cloud as other service providers
Re: AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
#138This is manifesting itself as downtime for a lot of companies, including Heroku: https://status.heroku.com If you want alerts on this sort of thing, my side project StatusGator https://statusgator.io will alert you when services post downtime on their status pages. My dashboard blew up this morning with a ton of red and yellow as soon as Amazon started flaking. Edit: I suppose it's time to invest in a multi-region se…
Interesting that the outage in us-east-1 is causing huge issues for Heroku in eu-west-1 too - obviously a region for Heroku isn't self sufficient.
Where do you see that it's causing issues for Heroku in eu-west-1? I have a lot of dynos in that region and I don't see any issues
Re: AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
#139For ADHD I would recommend Concerta/Ritalin/Adderall; that would enable you to read for not just a few seconds more but even minutes more before you judge. (I'm not joking here, I'm using 36mg Concerta for about about 4yrs now. Before that I also often came across as an asshole.) There is also a less evasive way of improving your online communication quality: http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html
That was from my phone which is why it was sparse...but... > The Datomic software consists of the peer library and the transactor > These components connect to one of several storage service options I'm pretty well versed in computer science and buzzwords - but that means nothing to me. That was from the overview which I expected a dead simple "this is what it does and why you need it". There are several important qu…
It's super off-topic to talk about this here. :/
I checked it on mobile too, but it looks the same as on desktop.
It has a tagline similar to statuspage or slack:
"The fully transactional, cloud-ready, distributed database."
To gain some insights into our differences, here is my thought process:
I agree that description is quite fuzzy, but to me it clarifies it's a database, not just a proxy. It suggests ACID properties by saying transactional and the cloud ready part hints scalability to me.
Then you would think "Oh, not again, another DB", so it continues with the "Why Datomic?" heading.
Afterwards the 1st link is "Read the Rationale", which explains everything everything about the software quite concisely. It's a database though, so don't expect to understand it a few seconds.
Being said that, the video on the 1st page gives a very solid explanation in its first 40seconds...
Thanks for the examples; now I understand what were you thinking. Those tag lines are really well done, but I think they had an easier job since they were describing a lot simpler services.
Re: AWS US East is experiencing high error rates on several services
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been using DynamoDB since it was released. In over 3 and 1/2 years of use, this is the first time I've experienced DynamoDB being down.
If down for longer than 18 minutes then they missed "5 9s" availability (.3 hours / 3.5 years). Not that it is supposed to work that way.
Software bug caused downtime vs infrastructure / hardware availability uptime to me are a different guarantee. I am pretty sure someone did something recently to DynamoDB.