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PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

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Re: PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

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post #18

The name of the project is unfortunate, as it makes it very difficult to search the web for related projects such as Linux or OS X ports.

Many projects fall in this trap. I use Awesome as my window manager, and the Awesome theming library is called Beautiful. Now try googling "awesome beautiful wallpaper"...

Or the file manager in Fedora being called "Files".

Re: PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

#42
post #38

This is a revolution for transporting confidential information through customs :) If it's not electronic they won't even bother checking it!

No, sorry, it's not. That's already trivial: Take a microSD card with your info. Put it together with a couple of tablespoons of oatmeal into a tightly and well wrapped plastic package. Swallow it. Travel. Arrive. Poop. Voila.

Also, if you bring big stacks of paper it will often be inspected, since a common way of smuggling currency is putting hundred-dollar bills between the pages of books.

Re: PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

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It would be nice to see a detailed comparison regarding alphanumeric efficiency, licenses and mobile readers, error correction, no error correction between the options below as Voiceye claims uncompressed 3M per A4, which is twice the efficiency of Paperback or QR codes. The mobile app is usable and supports midi encoding as well, but to make Voiceye codes you have to buy 500$ software. Are they using a form of compression?

* QR version 40 (177x177) tiled

* Voiceye

* Paperback without compression

* Grade 1 braille

* Grade 2 braille

* Morse code

* Optar

Braille would be suitable for people who are deaf and blind as well.

Re: PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

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post #6

So I'd like this on medium that's a bit more permanent than paper, but with similar information density per kg, and similar re-creatability without having any of the original tools available. I'd like to store data for say 100 thousand years.

Concrete? Perhaps a 3D printer could make a mold from a data format similar to this one, even one in 3D.. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-3D-Print-Molds-for-Sm...

How would you read it back?

Re: PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Concrete? Perhaps a 3D printer could make a mold from a data format similar to this one, even one in 3D.. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-3D-Print-Molds-for-Sm...

How would you read it back?

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_braille_recognition

* http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~springer/DigitalNeedle/index.html

* 3D Scanning At Home! (Using an xbox Kinect) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cKb3oEM47E

... If a picture is worth a thousand words, how much could we encode in a statue?

Re: PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

#47

this has some pretty powerful applications for example for politics or mass dissemination of paper based digital files for the public to quickly consume. Imagine, if students could start posting free textbook pdf files just by handing out a piece of paper which you could scan, or maybe with a phone one day, and instantly receive the file. Why not QR code? QR code needs connectivity while this solution would just requ…

Maybe I'm just slow tonight but I don't see the usefulness in the applications you're describing. >for politics or mass dissemination of paper based digital files for the public to quickly consume > Imagine, if students could start posting free textbook pdf files just by handing out a piece of paper which you could scan, or maybe with a phone one day, and instantly receive the file. With both of those, how is this mo…

You can't do anonymous mass dissemination with SD cards because of the cost. You can do it with CD-ROMs however. In China, people actually do this and sometimes you can find a CDROM with dissident political messages lying on the ground.

It's also common to print anti-government messages on the money, which might be a great application of paperback/QR - higher density public messages via circulating currency.

Re: PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

#48
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many projects fall in this trap. I use Awesome as my window manager, and the Awesome theming library is called Beautiful. Now try googling "awesome beautiful wallpaper"...

Or the file manager in Fedora being called "Files".

Its real name is nautilus

Re: PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

#49
post #6

So I'd like this on medium that's a bit more permanent than paper, but with similar information density per kg, and similar re-creatability without having any of the original tools available. I'd like to store data for say 100 thousand years.

You'll want something that an unsophisticated civilization can make copies of. Might be interesting to have a stylized form of a modern language with layout that incorporates simple integrity checks. The monks who copied documents in the middle ages made a lot of errors.

Re: PaperBack – How to store data on a single A4/Letter sheet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tyvek, perhaps? I'm not sure how long-term it would stick around, but it wouldn't decay as fast as paper in an unprotected environment.

Not 100,000 years, but if you're looking for something that will last longer than paper, I recommend... paper. Rag paper. 100% rag, acid free copier/laser paper should be available at most office supply stores. I'd be more worried about toner de-lamination than paper deterioration in that case.

Paper's pretty good. Not sure it's 100K years good, but you're definitely better with paper than almost anything else in the modern world. People underestimate paper.

It's vulnerable to moisture, mold and insects, though.

If you can solve problems with breakage, very little is going to compete with glass or ceramic. So, something it's hard to apply breaking force to: Maybe etch glass balls, add some impurities for visibility, then re-coat with more glass for protection. A handful of beads will survive nearly anything.

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