Microsoft has developed its own Linux: in-house software-defined networking OS

Post by yuhong » Fri, Sep 18, 2015, 11:58 PM UTC

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Yea, this OS/2 2.0 fiasco used to my favorite topic, and I have plenty of bad things to say about MS's behavior there.

Windows was selling well while OS/2 sales were, to quote Gates, "dismal", and Microsoft couldn't afford to support a failing project. (IBM may have had more programmers on OS/2 than Microsoft had programmers.) Thanks to hiring Dave Cutler and staff from DEC, Microsoft could see a way out. However, IBM rejected the plan to move to NT as OS/2 3.0, and the two companies formally divorced. After that, IBM did its best to…

Post by ams6110 » Sat, Sep 19, 2015, 1:38 AM UTC

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MS used to really trash open source, with Ballmer calling GPL "cancer". (Although the company pulled back from that extreme). When MS took over Hotmail they got rid of FreeBSD that was running it. But MS have used Unix for years. They released MS IE for Unix. (The only person I know who ever used it was on HN.) Perhaps more bizarre was the Windows Media Player for Unix. Their TCP/IP stack was from BSD for ages (and p…

I downloaded and played with IE for Solaris, but I didn't use it for day to day browsing. One interesting thing that I recall from it was that it had .so files that corresponded to each of the windows DLLs. So it looked like they had some sort of framework for porting windows code to Unix.

Post by frik » Sat, Sep 19, 2015, 4:22 AM UTC

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Heavy Windows server user here. We have 100+ windows server 2008 R2 and 2012 R2 machines in production and a massive .Net/C# codebase. Currently it's a complete bastard of an operating system. It's expensive, hard to manage even with powershell and DSC etc, difficult to update, difficult to provision, complicated and to be honest absolutely terrible licensing hell that costs us days a year. Hyper-V just adds complexi…

The plan for the original Active Directory was to be the directory service of a Microsoft dominated "information highway" called "The Microsoft Network" (v1). see the infamous Microsoft memo from Bill Gates It seems they have big plans for their cloud product "Azure"

Post by nickpsecurity » Sat, Sep 19, 2015, 5:35 AM UTC

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Holy crap, I didn't even know about the Skype event! Thanks for the link. Probably the best and funniest endorsement grsecurity ever had haha. However, I've enjoyed for years calling them on running Hotmail on FreeBSD and what it took them to replace the reliable AS/400 running their business with Windows servers. Funny shit. Kin situation is another I didn't know about. Just wow. Most companies would have to work to…

Baller's consistent ability to create material losses no doubt had a large part in his downfall, see also e.g. the Xbox 360 hardware. And Intel is claiming that Windows desktop screwups are in part costing it a billion dollars in 1Q15, people aren't upgrading from XP. Nadella I'm very uncertain about. To the extent he can terminate with extreme prejudice stack ranking and the poison it has suffused throughout Microso…

Post by scholia » Sat, Sep 19, 2015, 12:01 PM UTC

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Windows was selling well while OS/2 sales were, to quote Gates, "dismal", and Microsoft couldn't afford to support a failing project. (IBM may have had more programmers on OS/2 than Microsoft had programmers.) Thanks to hiring Dave Cutler and staff from DEC, Microsoft could see a way out. However, IBM rejected the plan to move to NT as OS/2 3.0, and the two companies formally divorced. After that, IBM did its best to…

I am also talking about a few years later, up to the "Chicago"/Win95 period when the attacks really got nasty.