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Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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Post by DanBC »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #268
DanBC wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At one job, I regularly interacted with a man who was larger than me and often angry. He was a few inches taller and 70-80 pounds heavier. He'd had a couple people threaten him with going to management for official notice when he got angry. I ended up dealing with him because I sort of understood how he felt about all that, so I'd just let his anger wash off my back. I knew he wasn't actually threatening. No, he ac…

If a physical trait causes people around someone to feel fear, alarm and distress, then that person actually is threatening and it's not acceptable. As noted above, other physical traits (e.g. blackness) also cause those reactions. Your claim - namely that people's subjective perception, rather than objective behavior, are what determines the bounds of acceptability - seems to prove too much.

It's not the physical traits of height or maleness or colour, but the anger displayed.

Perhaps I should have phrased it as "Don't have a work environment that regularly causes your employees to display anger"; and "Support your employees with workplace stress".

But still, anyone who is regularly angry at work needs to realise that their behaviour is not acceptable.

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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Post by mbrutsch »

6stringmerc wrote: post #30

You planning to open up such a thing for the handicapped as well? I mean, until the ACA came along, I pretty much took a risk-aversion pattern career path so I wouldn't get thrown into the "prexisting condition" abyss, and I'm probably not alone here. Personally speaking, a lot of handicapped folk I've met through the years are quite clever, innovative, and determined, because starting life at the plate with a 3-2 co…

They're just responding to whatever's in the wind today.

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

bakhy wrote: post #238
tcdent wrote: post #204

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First, this is not a debate about wether oppression exists; obviously it does. I'm asking if team-sports-like brand exclusivity is right, when our ultimate goal should be the acceptance of everyone. Do think about why you insist on labeling yourself. I don't care if you're gay, and it's certainly not the most important thing I want to hear about you. If we're not talking about sex, why would you bring up your sexual…

excuse me, but you are being very discriminatory. > If we're not talking about sex, why would you bring up your sexual orientation? because it's a big part of who i am. to give a simple example of just how thoroughly oblivious you are - i was invited to many hetero weddings, some pretty big ones, and it had not once occurred to me to come up to the bride and groom and say: "you know, do all these people really need t…

> because it's a big part of who i am. to give a simple example of just how thoroughly oblivious you are - i was invited to many hetero weddings, some pretty big ones, and it had not once occurred to me to come up to the bride and groom and say: "you know, do all these people really need to know you two are fucking?!"

> love is a big deal in everyone's life, and i won't stick mine in a closet because you don't want to hear it.

I don't really think that's a fair comparison. A wedding is a public celebration between two people so of course they want everyone to know that they're celebrating something. But your own sexual orientation? How do you bring that up in a conversation not about sexual orientation? I don't care what someone's orientation is, they can be whatever they want, but if I'm meeting someone for the first time why do I need to know about their orientation?

Obviously no one here is saying to HIDE your orientation but, at least for me, being heterosexual doesn't make me who I am, does being homosexual really make people who they are? I feel like that's separate from sexual orientation. In my opinion at least.

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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Post by Mkae »

getfitroxana wrote: post #265
nostrademons wrote: post #185

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Isn't that precisely what privilege means? Having advantages that accrue to you simply by membership in one group? There are degrees of privilege, too. I'm not white - I'm multiracial white/Asian, though I look basically Asian. I'm also not a Stanford grad, and my parents weren't millionaires. However, I grew up middle-class in a reasonably affluent suburb, my parents stayed married, they were highly educated, and I'…

Okay, and when are we gonna talk about Jewish privilege? Because they get all the benefits of white privilege when they're white-passing, PLUS the benefits of being Jewish! http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4099803,00.html (Ynetnews is an Israeli paper, by the way) "Since the mass immigration some 100 years ago, Jews have become richest religious group in American society. They make up only 2% of US populatio…

Or how about the drawbacks of being Jewish? According to the FBI (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2013/topic-... "Of the 1,223 victims of anti-religious hate crimes: 60.3 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Jewish bias."

Perhaps Jews do so well because Judaism teaches critical thinking and education as a philosophy, whereas Christianity teaches obedience and the power of wishful thinking. Only one of these schools of thoughts helps you in the real world.

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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Post by fijal »

cryoshon wrote: post #56
fijal wrote: post #32

Veterans? What does this word mean in this context? I would expect it to mean a military veteran (this is what wikipedia thinks), but it sounds very weird here. PS. I'm neither living in America nor a native speaker so excuse my lack of knowledge

Yeah, military veteran is the correct reading. I guess if you really stretch the idea, they count as minorities.

That sounds like a really strange idea to me, can someone explain why does people who used to shoot other people count as a cultural minority, as opposed to say, retired policeman, railway worker or any other group really?

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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Post by getfitroxana »

Mkae wrote: post #278
getfitroxana wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, and when are we gonna talk about Jewish privilege? Because they get all the benefits of white privilege when they're white-passing, PLUS the benefits of being Jewish! http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4099803,00.html (Ynetnews is an Israeli paper, by the way) "Since the mass immigration some 100 years ago, Jews have become richest religious group in American society. They make up only 2% of US populatio…

Or how about the drawbacks of being Jewish? According to the FBI ( https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2013/topic-... "Of the 1,223 victims of anti-religious hate crimes: 60.3 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Jewish bias." Perhaps Jews do so well because Judaism teaches critical thinking and education as a philosophy, whereas Christianity teaches obedience and the power o…

And yet, no one has a "Perhaps white people do so well because..." and if they do, they're racist. Right?
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