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Re: Amazon's New $50 Fire Tablet

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Parents. It comes with a two-year "no questions asked" warranty and free access to tons of media curated by an independent third party.

Actually, the "no questions asked" warranty is only on the "Kids edition" which is $100. The Kids edition is the $50 tablet + a case + "FreeTime", and the 2 year replacement warranty.

Where do I find more info about that? I tried returning it and they said I was past the 90-day return policy.

Re: Amazon's New $50 Fire Tablet

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If your saying its "built for entertainment", a mono speaker doesn't go with that.

You're not going to get any sort of audio fidelity from the speakers in a tablet, so anyone who wants that is already using headphones. Thus it's likely that the people using that speakers can't hear the difference between mono/stereo for the content they care about.

Exactly. Even on the higher-end iPads the built-in speakers are pretty much crap for any kind of serious listening.

Not to mention that the stereo separation you're going to get on a 7" tablet is going to be minimal anyway.

Re: Amazon's New $50 Fire Tablet

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From what I could tell, (at least) the $50 Fire is currently ad supported, and by default Amazon Underground is ad supported as well.

Ouch. This one landed. If this is true, then I think it would turn me off the deal. Unless I wanted to try what someone else mentioned and flash it with CyanogenMod or something. Never done that before, but this might be a good way to start.. edit: It looks like they've got the same situation vis-a-vis ads as all Kindles - yes they have ads, there is some attempt to make them unobtrusive, and they only have ads in th…

If you've never done rooting/flashing before, an Amazon device is not a good place to start. I did it on a HDX 7 only after a ton of reading, and the consensus is that it's easy to get it wrong and brick the device. There are no escape hatches like there are on the Google Nexus devices. I've done this a ton on my Nexus 5 and my HD2 several years prior.

Also note that the HD 6 and HD 7 are still not flashable, and they've been out for some time. Amazon seems to have gone out of their way to make this a difficult device to tinker on.

My recommendation is to find a well-treated used Nexus 7 and you will have a much better time of things. They are much easier to flash with better ROM support. Please don't buy this thing with the expectation of enjoying some weekend tinkering - it's not worth your time.

(I suppose I'll caveat that the one scenario where it would make sense to get it now would be that v1 firmwares contain bugs that will make your life easier when exploits are found, but still - probably not worth it)

Re: Amazon's New $50 Fire Tablet

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You're not going to get any sort of audio fidelity from the speakers in a tablet, so anyone who wants that is already using headphones. Thus it's likely that the people using that speakers can't hear the difference between mono/stereo for the content they care about.

Exactly. Even on the higher-end iPads the built-in speakers are pretty much crap for any kind of serious listening. Not to mention that the stereo separation you're going to get on a 7" tablet is going to be minimal anyway.

There's a difference between "serious listening" and having left and right channels in a tablet. A person can tell left and right on a 7" device held as close as a tablet. Audio clues matter.

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People who are not technically literate and bought into the Amazon eco system. Also Hearthstone players where, with the right combination of events, you can buy in-game currency at a discount that likely exceeds the $50 [if you buy $500 worth of in game currency, which is not unusual in a TCG, you only need a 10% discount to effectively get a "free" tablet] http://hearthstoneplayers.com/today-only-special-bonus-on-am…

Re Hearthstone: This is something that applies to any user of the Amazon store, which is open to regular android users. I doubt Amazon's target demographic for this tablet is "Hearthstone players"... at least, not for that reason.

Yeah but I can't think of anything on Amazon worth $200 of Amazon coins besides that.

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Excuse my ignorance, what prevents a savvy user from flashing it with a different OS?

As @deng mentioned above, the Amazon tablets have historically had locked bootloaders -- they won't load custom ROMs. The XDA guys seem to believe it's unlikely you'll ever be able to load Cyanogen on one of them.

> The XDA guys seem to believe it's unlikely you'll ever be able to load Cyanogen on one of them.

The first-generation Fire tablets definitely support Cyanogenmod, though it was a bit awkward to get around the bootloader lock at first. Are the newer ones not supported?

Re: Amazon's New $50 Fire Tablet

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Amazon quietly does pretty good business with some school districts. We've made several 1,000+ unit bulk sales of educational apps through them. It's not iPad numbers, but it's a lot better than we thought.

This device will slip perfectly into that role.

Re: Amazon's New $50 Fire Tablet

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I'm unsure about the hardware capabilities of this. I understand that the display cannot display 1080p.

However, if i do copy a 1080p mp4 file with subtitles onto it, is it likely that this one will be able to play it?

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