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The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
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Re: The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
#42Re: The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's an interesting approach, but if the "pro" features are something the user really needs, then don't you risk losing a sub if the feature is withheld until you "get to know each other?"
You could give them 15 days free use, and only charge it after that... there is a risk that the charge doesn't go through (in which case you've given a couple weeks free service - big deal), but otherwise, you've just made it much less useful for card testing (to the point that they certainly won't use your site).
Re: The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
#44Why don't you "motivate" frequent users to start paying? ex. by making the free version (gradually) worse until you see revenue. ex. - non pro user pastebins last 5mins, 5 views etc - non pro users can post 1 pastebin per day (cookies, IP) - non pro user pastebins are max x characters long. - you get the idea - there are clever people on this forum who will come up with good ideas to help you out. - do everything BUT…
Re: The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think the obligation to pay customers' VAT goes back way before VATMOSS. Yep, VOES was put in place in 2003 and that was a simplification, before that businesses were supposed to register themselves with each country's tax office and fill VAT everywhere. For non-EU businesses VATMOSS mostly updates the scheme: register yourself in any member state and use their MOSS portal as a non-EU business, the tax office is…
You only needed to register in different countries once your sells to them are above a quite hefty limit though so when you started you just paid VAT in your country and that was it. (I am talking from EU citizen perspective)
Re: The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
#46Re: The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's an interesting approach, but if the "pro" features are something the user really needs, then don't you risk losing a sub if the feature is withheld until you "get to know each other?"
You could give them 15 days free use, and only charge it after that... there is a risk that the charge doesn't go through (in which case you've given a couple weeks free service - big deal), but otherwise, you've just made it much less useful for card testing (to the point that they certainly won't use your site).
Re: The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
risk score means the possibility of a transaction being fraudulent. here's another way you can do this for cards issued in Europe: if the risk score is too high start a 3D secure transaction. if the risk score is acceptable then start a normal transaction. a full 3D transaction will never mean it is not fraud however you will have no liabilities when a chargeback is issued by the card holder. many of your US customer…
As a US customer, I'm hesitant to use 3D Secure because: 1) The implementations by Visa and MasterCard have security weaknesses, terrible usability and look like phishing: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/fc10vbvsecurecode.pdf 2) My understanding is that my bank shifts liability to me for 3D Secure transactions. Why would I want extra liability?
Fortunately here in the USA I haven't been asked for my credentials in at least 10 years. So it seems to have died the death it so richly deserved.
Do people encounter this on a daily basis?
Re: The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
#49How would the EU enforce VAT requirements on an online business based in the U.S.? If I have an online business in the US and no presence in the EU and no intention to ever go to the EU, I don't have to charge VAT, right?
Re: The toxic side of free – how I lost the love for my side project (part 4)
#50How would the EU enforce VAT requirements on an online business based in the U.S.? If I have an online business in the US and no presence in the EU and no intention to ever go to the EU, I don't have to charge VAT, right?