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Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by bigiain » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:57 AM UTC

tomlock wrote: post #76

bigiain wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair (and I slightly hate myself for speaking up in their defence) the cops were claiming "bomb hoax", not "bomb". Of course the police are also claiming "not racially motivated policing", so as we gauge their level of truthfullness we should keep both those facts in mind...

My response to that is how did he attempt to perpetrate a hoax? What evidence did the officers have that his intent was to do so?

He didn't, and none.

The kid did nothing wrong. The supposed "adults" and "authorities" are 100% at fault here.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by Random_BSD_Geek » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:57 AM UTC

blizkreeg wrote: post #10

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

I understand and agree with your outrage. But isn't the attention and humiliation they are receiving enough? Elevating the dialogue was the graceful thing to do.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by Beltiras » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:58 AM UTC

InclinedPlane wrote: post #15

The real problem is that the system that bubbled up this exceptional and notable instance of idiocy has just been churning away day in, day out for years and decades and affects a tremendous number of people's lives. Schools that are just industrialized baby-sitting facilities where kids are subjected to so much useless busy work it's a wonder that any enthusiasm for knowledge remains. And school and legal systems wh…

It's a little ridiculous thinking that institutions supposedly founded to increase intelligence insist on being governed by rules demanding it's absence.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by vfclists » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 2:02 AM UTC

blizkreeg wrote: post #10

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

I don't suppose any of you have heard of the School to Prison Pipeline.

Lookup Dr Umar Johnson

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by joezydeco » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 2:04 AM UTC

It seems to me that Ahmed's story is turning out to be this perfect intersection of zero-tolerance, racism, technological illiteracy, and police overreaction. It's an entire decade of nonsense in a tidy little package.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by GBond » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 2:11 AM UTC

Random_BSD_Geek wrote: post #82

blizkreeg wrote: post #10

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

I understand and agree with your outrage. But isn't the attention and humiliation they are receiving enough? Elevating the dialogue was the graceful thing to do.

Taking high road is best. The fear these authority had comes from ignorance. And the HNer types can help change that. Geeks can do a better job of presenting technology to normals in a way that is palpable.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by krauthammer » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 2:11 AM UTC

MCRed wrote: post #67

guelo wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Federalism means that the federal government doesn't have much power at the state or lower levels unless there are constitutional issues involved (you could argue 14th amendment but it's a stretch). If Obama tried to get the teacher fired it would be a massive abuse of power.

United States Code 18-242 makes it a federal crime (a felony if armed) to violate a citizens constitutional rights under color of law. There are several rights that I think were violated here, or appear to have been enough to make it indictable and possibly merit prosecution.

You are forced by law to respect a jewish enclave and you should respect Irving and Texas.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by bentruyman » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 2:12 AM UTC

bigiain wrote: post #80

bentruyman wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not entirely sure what your photo has to do with anything.

It's a home built clock. I think in Texas that'd make me suspicious - and I think that's _insane_.

But you even said if you had put it in a suitcase it would look like a bomb...

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by krauthammer » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 2:18 AM UTC

-It's an opposing orthodox religious family

-It's in an ethnic christian holdout of the earth

-The kid is above average, and the device looks like he's been dreaming of a suitcase nuke

People should respect the patriarchy and the nations of the Earth. This family should live in the larger city in Texas, if anywhere.

edit: You don't respect how the world and culture and sanity works or how many people are on it if you're opposed to this way of thinking.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by krapp » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 2:23 AM UTC

markbnj wrote: post #47

>> Attached is a picture of the device that shows it was suspicious in nature Please. Suspicious if you've never seen electronics outside of a case, perhaps.

To play devil's advocate, though, most people have probably never seen electronics out of a case.

Although the police really have no excuse not to know what a bomb does and doesn't look like.