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"The student only would say it was a clock and was not forthcoming at that time about any other details." What did they expect him to say? It WAS only a clock. There were no other details regarding its nature or use.
Honestly, I'm not worried for Ahmed at all, in 15 years he will be in much better shape compared to 99% of the population. I'm just concerned about all the other kids given those teacher and school admins.
You're wrong, I'm sorry to say. The other kids will be just fine. He will be the one who will remember this and it could affect his life in ways that we can't say yet.
I certainly hope so, anyway.
The small metallic type suitcase/box may have been a perfect container 1) To cram in all the ugly looking wires inside while the outer appearance of the product looks polished 2) Nice platform to tether the circuit boards etc to keep them in place 3) Doubles up as a carry box to move around his project and display/show to friends , teachers etc On the flip side 1) There is subtle difference between timers vs clocks 2…
Can folks downvoting this comment explain what you're taking issue with? I see this post as a thoughtful plea for context and consideration. What am I missing?
The police were not fearful enough to evacuate the school, yet made the claim that this seemed to be a bomb.
Explaining their actions without that context is a bit trite.
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Apparently there is such a law as anti-hoax bomb so it would be hard to prosecute officers. Another reason it's hard to prosecute bad cops is the same reason it's hard to fire bad teachers: powerful unions, which by the way Obama and Hillary support. These unions don't care about safety or education (in case of teachers unions), they only care about protecting officers and teachers jobs, no matter how bad or criminal…
The design of the clock is absurd for a "random project". If the kid walks into an airport with that, its basically like yelling fire in a movie theatre. its not freedom of speech, even tho its speech. If this is a politicised stunt (which it appears to be), same issues at play. This whole insident basically looks like a johnny knonxville stunt form Jackass (the mtv show). If its true that his father is a former pres…
Should I be convicted of a "bomb hoax" for this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigiain/5162711688/
Note my description from five years ago shows somewhat more considered-but-not-carried-out intent than this kid...
I think you are 100% wrong. People who assume anything vaguely electronic that they don't understand must be "terrorism" are the problem here, not smart kids building things out of what they have at hand with whatever aesthetic they like. In my opinion, it's the school and the cops who were yelling "fire" in this movie theatre.
And this isn't the first time "the authorities" have go this just as badly wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare https://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html
I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…
>I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? Maybe because the world has bigger problems than one police officer and a teacher acting out of line. It's a story the i…
- Most people love to be PC and no one has the cajones to have a frank conversation about race issues as adults (especially in the red states).
- A lot of people love to spew out personal anecdotes and pass them off as the truth and anything opposing to that POV as an exception to their anecdotal belief
- The fact that none of them have apologized (at this point in time, even if they issue one, it's going to be fake) shows the disdain and bigotry against minorities, generally speaking
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By that measure, unless someone dies, nothing is important. Couldn't you conceive of a situation where he (let's say out of panic) acts weird and an officer shoots him dead on suspicion of a suitcase containing a bomb? Would that make it important enough?
Funny you should put it like that. Now that actual pictures of the "digital clock" are available, that is first time I have seen a clock built into a metal suitcase that, golly gee, somewhat resembles a bomb. Ya'll are being absurd. That kid new what he was doing, I did stupid shit like that when I his age...worse in fact, these days I would have made national headlines if I had been caught. So I know what I am talki…
I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…
Federalism means that the federal government doesn't have much power at the state or lower levels unless there are constitutional issues involved (you could argue 14th amendment but it's a stretch). If Obama tried to get the teacher fired it would be a massive abuse of power.
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The design of the clock is absurd for a "random project". If the kid walks into an airport with that, its basically like yelling fire in a movie theatre. its not freedom of speech, even tho its speech. If this is a politicised stunt (which it appears to be), same issues at play. This whole insident basically looks like a johnny knonxville stunt form Jackass (the mtv show). If its true that his father is a former pres…
Seriously? You think it's the _clock design_ that's absurd, and not the school and cop's ignorant reactions? Should I be convicted of a "bomb hoax" for this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigiain/5162711688/ Note my description from five years ago shows somewhat more considered-but-not-carried-out intent than this kid... I think you are 100% wrong. People who assume anything vaguely electronic that they don't underst…
go try joking about explosives in security line at the airport, or at the white-house, or the local federal courthouse. Its not the joke you are getting (going to be) arrested for, its not the absurdity, its not the freedom of speech you are exercising. Its also not racist or whatever...it is just not the context for jokes.
Second,
The for the "timepiece" is straight out of a B movie. see, eg
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+a+gun+briefcase+look...
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+does+a+bomb+in+a+breifc...
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Can folks downvoting this comment explain what you're taking issue with? I see this post as a thoughtful plea for context and consideration. What am I missing?
One of the officers made a comment that indicates a certain level of racism. The police were not fearful enough to evacuate the school, yet made the claim that this seemed to be a bomb. Explaining their actions without that context is a bit trite.
Of course the police are also claiming "not racially motivated policing", so as we gauge their level of truthfullness we should keep both those facts in mind...