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Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

>I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? Maybe because the world has bigger problems than one police officer and a teacher acting out of line. It's a story the i…

Are you suggesting an immediate pardon for any crime less serious than kidnapping or slander?

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

#32

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

Federalism means that the federal government doesn't have much power at the state or lower levels unless there are constitutional issues involved (you could argue 14th amendment but it's a stretch). If Obama tried to get the teacher fired it would be a massive abuse of power.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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post #14

I really really hope he wins a multi-million dollar lawsuit for wrongful arrest and turns it into a billion dollar company that makes precision timepieces.

Poor kid has been humiliated and called a genius inventor on same day, imagine the pressure he'll get to live up to this expectation as a future engineer/scientist.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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post #21

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

>I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? Maybe because the world has bigger problems than one police officer and a teacher acting out of line. It's a story the i…

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

#35
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Officer safety" is statutory language that supports a whole host of discretionary powers, from handcuffing to shooting dead. It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to implicate him. It maybe should be, but isn't. However, what is illegal is questioning him without his parents or a lawyer present, which he requested multiple times to no ef…

I meant criminal in a metaphorical sense. But shouldn't they be prosecuted for questioning him without parental consent or presence, at least?

But shouldn't they be prosecuted for questioning him without parental consent or presence, at least?

No, because Civil Rights violations are generally established through civil suits, not criminal. More specifically, 42 USC 1983 is civil, 18 USC 242 is criminal. There is a telltale loophole in the criminal statute, "willfully," that provides wiggle room for the violator to play dumb.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? Maybe because the world has bigger problems than one police officer and a teacher acting out of line. It's a story the i…

By that measure, unless someone dies, nothing is important. Couldn't you conceive of a situation where he (let's say out of panic) acts weird and an officer shoots him dead on suspicion of a suitcase containing a bomb? Would that make it important enough?

Funny you should put it like that. Now that actual pictures of the "digital clock" are available, that is first time I have seen a clock built into a metal suitcase that, golly gee, somewhat resembles a bomb.

Ya'll are being absurd. That kid new what he was doing, I did stupid shit like that when I his age...worse in fact, these days I would have made national headlines if I had been caught. So I know what I am talking about here.

He may be be a smart boy, but you put that briefcase in any Hollywood movie or video game and they would call it a bomb. If he was really building a clock it would at least somewhat really resemble a clock.

Bear in mind, I am a strong opponent of the rising police state and slow creep of tyranny that I hope is becoming obvious to even the more ignorant sections of the populace. But this...come on guys, call a spade a spade.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

#38
post #21

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

>I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? Maybe because the world has bigger problems than one police officer and a teacher acting out of line. It's a story the i…

Maybe this story is much more important than you think because plenty of people see it as a symptom of a larger problem than an isolated incident.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

#39
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that measure, unless someone dies, nothing is important. Couldn't you conceive of a situation where he (let's say out of panic) acts weird and an officer shoots him dead on suspicion of a suitcase containing a bomb? Would that make it important enough?

Funny you should put it like that. Now that actual pictures of the "digital clock" are available, that is first time I have seen a clock built into a metal suitcase that, golly gee, somewhat resembles a bomb. Ya'll are being absurd. That kid new what he was doing, I did stupid shit like that when I his age...worse in fact, these days I would have made national headlines if I had been caught. So I know what I am talki…

"Metal suitcase"? "Briefcase"? It's merely the size of a pencil box. In fact, it IS a pencil box. Call a spade a spade.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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post #9
post #6

Last Insaw about an hour ago, he is still suspended through Thursday (tomorrow). Is this still true? I don't understand why if the charges were dropped...

The school system and the court system are two different systems. It's possible to be suspended without being arrested. It's possible to be arrested without being suspended.

And if you think court systems have trouble admitting wrongdoing, they're nothing compared to school systems.
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