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Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by jcfrei » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:02 AM UTC

blizkreeg wrote: post #10

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

>I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that?

Maybe because the world has bigger problems than one police officer and a teacher acting out of line. It's a story the internet loves and perpetuates but frankly absolutely unimportant.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by DarkTree » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:03 AM UTC

blizkreeg wrote: post #12

obilgic wrote: post #7

Honestly, I'm not worried for Ahmed at all, in 15 years he will be in much better shape compared to 99% of the population. I'm just concerned about all the other kids given those teacher and school admins.

You're wrong, I'm sorry to say. The other kids will be just fine. He will be the one who will remember this and it could affect his life in ways that we can't say yet.

I don't think the parent was commenting on how the other students would be more affected by this incident, but will affected simply by attending a school with horrible administration. He, on the other hand, has been invited to places like Facebook by Zuckerberg himself because of this incident. Not the worst outcome.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by moron4hire » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:04 AM UTC

jcfrei wrote: post #21

blizkreeg wrote: post #10

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

>I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? Maybe because the world has bigger problems than one police officer and a teacher acting out of line. It's a story the i…

Maybe we have more than enough resources to handle even the problems you deem trivial.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by blizkreeg » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:04 AM UTC

jcfrei wrote: post #21

blizkreeg wrote: post #10

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

>I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? Maybe because the world has bigger problems than one police officer and a teacher acting out of line. It's a story the i…

By that measure, unless someone dies, nothing is important. Couldn't you conceive of a situation where he (let's say out of panic) acts weird and an officer shoots him dead on suspicion of a suitcase containing a bomb? Would that make it important enough?

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by patrickaljord » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:04 AM UTC

blizkreeg wrote: post #10

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

Apparently there is such a law as anti-hoax bomb so it would be hard to prosecute officers. Another reason it's hard to prosecute bad cops is the same reason it's hard to fire bad teachers: powerful unions, which by the way Obama and Hillary support. These unions don't care about safety or education (in case of teachers unions), they only care about protecting officers and teachers jobs, no matter how bad or criminal they can act.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by escherize » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:05 AM UTC

bentruyman wrote: post #18

rajbot wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They knew it was not a bomb. They were bullying him. If the school or police had actually thought it was dangerous they would have: 1. Evacuated the school 2. Called the bomb squad

Their justification is in the linked PDF: "Under Texas law, a person is guilty of possessing a hoax bomb if he possesses a device that is intended to cause anyone to be alarmed or a reaction of any type by law enforcement officers."

This is another way that governments (those with the monopoly of the use of force) expand their reach.

By putting the precipice of wrongdoing not on what happened but on the reaction of state agents, it becomes extremely difficult to call out bullies like this.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by dsugarman » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:06 AM UTC

jcfrei wrote: post #21

blizkreeg wrote: post #10

I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? It's criminal to handcuff and interrogate a 14-yr old in front of his entire class and school when they found nothing to…

>I'm glad Ahmed got all the support and encouragement he did but not one person of note/power, including Obama and Hillary Clinton (who offered their cute tweets) have talked of punishing, penalizing, or in the very least reprimanding the officers and teachers who put him through this. How is that? Maybe because the world has bigger problems than one police officer and a teacher acting out of line. It's a story the i…

Police culture is currently toxic and is a danger to all US citizens

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by dangoor » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:06 AM UTC

twerkmonsta wrote: post #13

mikeash wrote: post #3

It's amazing how these assholes are incapable of admitting that they're wrong. "Attached is a picture of the device that shows it was suspicious in nature." I bet they don't even realize they just sound like idiots.

"The Irving Police Department has always experienced an outstanding relationship with the Muslim community." Wait, if this was an objective reaction having only to do with the nature of the device, then why is the student's religion even mentioned?

I don't fault them for this, though I have no idea if it's true. This was stated because of the huge media firestorm and the belief that this wouldn't have happened to a Bob Jones.

Had this happened to a Bob Jones, there would not have been people saying that this only happened because he was Christian, and the sentence above would not have been in the PD statement.

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by osazuwa » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:06 AM UTC

rajbot wrote: post #11

mikeash wrote: post #3

It's amazing how these assholes are incapable of admitting that they're wrong. "Attached is a picture of the device that shows it was suspicious in nature." I bet they don't even realize they just sound like idiots.

They knew it was not a bomb. They were bullying him. If the school or police had actually thought it was dangerous they would have: 1. Evacuated the school 2. Called the bomb squad

I bet if you broke it down 80% of police activity would be saving face and putting on airs

Re: Ahmed Mohamed will not face charges related to device [pdf]

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Post by moron4hire » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 1:06 AM UTC

bane wrote: post #14

I really really hope he wins a multi-million dollar lawsuit for wrongful arrest and turns it into a billion dollar company that makes precision timepieces.

I agree in a sense, but that doesn't come without a protracted legal battle that I kind of hope his parents will spare him of.