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The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Re: The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Post by toothbrush »

aianus wrote: post #9
tajen wrote: post #2

I love studying economics like this article. It's the most counter-intuitive science. Unfortunately it's often a frontal collision with popular opinions, which brings a lot of hate against me (being white, I automatically get accused of unfairness). I wonder whether I'll ever be able to have a discussion about economics with less educated people, which means, will I ever be able to word it without hurting people.

Surround yourself with intelligent people who don't take an attack on their beliefs to be an attack on their person.

That sounds like a roundabout way of saying "filter bubble". Having to defend your opinions once in a while isn't all bad. If you have to surround yourself with people you find intelligent you might just be biasing your social circle towards people who agree with you a priori.

Re: The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Post by toothbrush »

tajen wrote: post #6
dublinben wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might have better luck if you work on not sounding so condescending.

Feels like that what I've tried for years. But your comment is the automatic response I get for any wording I use. So I've defaulted to thinking it's a prejudice from the listener. When is the last time you've discussed economy with someone who doesn't agree with you and didn't take it as condescending? and, bonus point, what did the guy say/not say?

I mean this in the friendliest spirit possible, but if literally everyone you meet feels you are condescending, perhaps some of them are right?

Re: The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Post by aianus »

toothbrush wrote: post #11
aianus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surround yourself with intelligent people who don't take an attack on their beliefs to be an attack on their person.

That sounds like a roundabout way of saying "filter bubble". Having to defend your opinions once in a while isn't all bad. If you have to surround yourself with people you find intelligent you might just be biasing your social circle towards people who agree with you a priori .

This is a good point but I was not suggesting surrounding yourself with people who agree with you. I meant people who disagree with you without getting emotionally invested or spouting logical fallacies.

Re: The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Post by aianus »

mahranch wrote: post #10

Man, I'd love to go poking around on the dark web, specifically those black markets just to look around and satiate my curiosity but am to afraid that I'll be put on some NSA watch list for doing so.

The NSA are not all-powerful. Grab Tails (https://tails.boum.org/), put on a pair of sunglasses, hit a local wifi hotspot, and go nuts.

Re: The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Post by jessaustin »

tajen wrote: post #2

I love studying economics like this article. It's the most counter-intuitive science. Unfortunately it's often a frontal collision with popular opinions, which brings a lot of hate against me (being white, I automatically get accused of unfairness). I wonder whether I'll ever be able to have a discussion about economics with less educated people, which means, will I ever be able to word it without hurting people.

The reason you can't get along with people is because you write paragraphs with zero content and 80% insult. What particular economic proposition would you argue, if you were actually here to discuss economics rather than to troll pathetically?

Re: The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Post by GauntletWizard »

DanBC wrote: post #7
tajen wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feels like that what I've tried for years. But your comment is the automatic response I get for any wording I use. So I've defaulted to thinking it's a prejudice from the listener. When is the last time you've discussed economy with someone who doesn't agree with you and didn't take it as condescending? and, bonus point, what did the guy say/not say?

> economics with less educated people, The "less educated people" is going to cause you problems. You probably need to find a different way to phrase that.

Yes. The correct way to phrase it is "Fucking worthless morons who would be dead if not for the shitty welfare state".

Re: The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Post by pakled_engineer »

aianus wrote: post #14
mahranch wrote: post #10

Man, I'd love to go poking around on the dark web, specifically those black markets just to look around and satiate my curiosity but am to afraid that I'll be put on some NSA watch list for doing so.

The NSA are not all-powerful. Grab Tails ( https://tails.boum.org/ ), put on a pair of sunglasses, hit a local wifi hotspot, and go nuts.

http://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/xkeyscorerules100.txt

http://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/aktuell/nsa230_page-1.html

The act of just searching/visiting Tails homepage gets you tasked into XKEYSCORE. Get generic linux live CD, apply sunglasses, obtain wifi then get the Tor Browser Bundle and go nuts (after about:config disable javascript).^^

Re: The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Post by gwern »

mahranch wrote: post #10

Man, I'd love to go poking around on the dark web, specifically those black markets just to look around and satiate my curiosity but am to afraid that I'll be put on some NSA watch list for doing so.

http://www.gwern.net/Black-market%20archives

Re: The user-friendly way to be a little drug lord: economic secrets of the dark web

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Post by gizmo686 »

toothbrush wrote: post #11
aianus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surround yourself with intelligent people who don't take an attack on their beliefs to be an attack on their person.

That sounds like a roundabout way of saying "filter bubble". Having to defend your opinions once in a while isn't all bad. If you have to surround yourself with people you find intelligent you might just be biasing your social circle towards people who agree with you a priori .

That is a definent concern, but I think it is possible to separate "intelligent" from "agrees with me".

For me, the biggest requirement to having an intelligent conversation is the ability to distinguish questions of fact, from questions of values. By far the most intelligent discussion group I have participated in, had me in the minority opinion in most discussions.

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