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Right, there are no criminals, that is all just made up by the police-industial-complex.
2/3 of them are. If you doubt it, look at any international comparison of incarceration rates.
Something doesn't seem quite right about this story. He made a clock and then chose to store it in a metal briefcase with the numbers on the outside. In other words, he built something that looks exactly like a bomb from a movie: briefcase with red numbers on it. Maybe this appearance was entirely accidental; but I would bet that he originally intended it to look like a bomb, probably for humour.
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There's the case of WebCamGate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School...
Holy shit, that is one of the most insane stories I've ever heard of. How was this not made into a prominent national news story? How have tons of school administrators not wound up in prison??
Overhear both the Head and It guy responsible would have been fired and be on the "not allowed to work with kids and vulnerable people" list for the rest of their lives. They would have been lucky not to get prosecuted for child porn as well
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> Attach a specific dollar amount to a student. Allow that student to go to whichever school they want. End of story. Allow it to go where there is little to no public over sight, no public school board or checks and balances, under performing scores, teachers paid $20,000 less with no pension, and CEOs making millions. Charter Schools are a part of the problem with American education. Sure some Charter Schools are g…
Then why don't the Obama kids go to public school? Citing security would be silly. A school is a school. Even the President doesn't believe in public schools. If he does, he sure isn't eating his dog food.
In the matter of experience in dealing with the issues (and dealing with the Secret Service on security is far from the only one) that attend children of major public figures, no, a school is not a school. And Sidwell Friends, the school that has been attended by every school-age child of a US President since the Nixon Administration is, arguably, sui generis in that regard.
The President not sending his kids to public schools is probably, as much as anything, a service to the public school that they would go to if they weren't going to Sidwell Friends.
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Ironically, you are engaging in the same sort of fear mongering and paranoia that these schools and police are engaging in. You are taking a rare event (idiotic profiling or terrorism) and concluding they are very common. These sorts of overreactions are very uncommon. That isn't to say these sorts of zero tolerance, jail what you don't understand, actions shouldn't be strongly condemned. But there are probably hundr…
Hang on: the route from school misdemeanor to criminal justice is well known and much talked about. The combination of zero tolerance with police stationed in schools means many children end up with criminal records for very minor events. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jan/09/texas-police-sc... > In 2010, the police gave close to 300,000 "Class C misdemeanour" tickets to children as young as six in Texas for o…
But this sort insane, zero tolerance of total normal behavior is much more limited.
I agree we shouldn't be using the criminal system of kids who bring pot to school or who get into fights. But it's a different issue than a kid getting arrested for being a hacker.
I have kids at school and I'm actually for the responses from the teachers, yes it's overacting and could be dealt with _much_ better, but being overly alert on this is better than ignorant. and it's better to show it at his house instead of at school for things like this I feel.
The police knew it wasn't a bomb the moment they saw it. Otherwise they would have called in the bomb squad right away. The fact that they continued to play games and arrest the kid is not for "safety". It's clear they arrested him because of racism.
That statement reeks of a story made up after the fact. You can imagine them sitting around their police station after they let the kid go.
Police A: "Oh shit, this kid was just bringing in a clock to show his engineering teacher. There are several witnesses who heard him tell us it was just a clock. And now everyone in the world is watching. We're fucked."
Police B: "Nothing's fucked, bro. Be cool. Think. Think. Wait, he never told us whhhhy he brought the clock to school."
Police A: "Why does that matter? he told us it was just a clock and it is just a clock! Did we even ask why he brought it?"
Police B: "I didnt ask why. Did you? Even if you didnt, its still somethin' you could say."
Police A: "That is so stupid."
Police B: "Still, you know... it is somethin' you could say."
Police A: "That is so stupid. You are stupid. And, we are fucked!"
...later at press conference
clears throat
Police A: "...he told us it was a clock buuuuut, he never told us whhhhy he brought the clock..."
glances over at Police B who has the stupidest grin on his face
What probably happened here is that the kid bought one of the many digital clock board kits available.[1][2] The problem is that these look just like the TV/movie version of bombs, because, of course, prop people use the same boards. Not real bombs, though. Richard Marcinko, the founder of Seal Team Six, once wrote that he'd blown up a lot of things in his career and he'd never seen a count down timer with glowing nu…
Either way, congrats to Mohamed for being curious about how things work, shame on his teachers for not doing due diligence (maybe asking the electronics teacher to take a look before calling the police?), and I wish there were more information available about exactly what Mohamed had done, because I find that to be the interesting part of the story.
Not that the response was appropriate, but I'm pretty sure that if I'd taken a similarly looking device into my very WASP-y suburban school, even though I'm white as a sheet, my school administration would have had a similar response. People are really paranoid these days, and right or wrong, we all have to deal with it.
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To explain myself, in a Texas Highschool I was sentenced to In School Suspension INDEFINITELY with my laptop confiscated for having shortcuts to directories on the network that I "shouldn't have had access to." After about a week of that I'd had enough, asked for OSS - got it, which I thought was enough but apparently wasn't. They ended up wanting to reassign me to an "alternative school" (the type with a dress code,…
What is wrong with American schools? The more I read the more disturbing it is. Where is the proportionality and common sense?
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I don't get how this point is debatable. I did this when I worked as a network administrator for a new school campus. It was folding@home vs. SETI but same concept. Once the administration realized all the computers were running folding@home they compared the bills after turning it off and it was tens of thousands of dollars difference (granted this was 2001 and full-size desktops). Now, one could say they overreacte…
> tens of thousands of dollars difference I still don't believe that - unless this was 10k computers+. I'll bet that if you used watts up on an idle computer, then used it on a computer running seti@home I'll bet the difference would only be 100 watt difference at the max (probably more like 50 depending on what is running on the computer).