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14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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A story. So, this thirteen year old kid with a Syrian father once got flagged up by Hewlett Packard because he was ordering electronic components. I'm sure you can imagine what happened next... Yeah, Bill Hewlett offered him a summer job, he got hooked on making stuff, wound up founding a company out of his garage with his buddy Steve Wozniak, and created the biggest electronics company in the world. Thank goodness h…

Biological father. His (adoptive) father was white, and Jobs didn't look middle eastern , the key part. There's a whole spectrum of skin tones within ethnicities that affects how you are treated in the US more than where your parents originate.

His (adoptive) father was white, and Jobs didn't look middle eastern, the key part.

This shows your lack of knowledge of the Middle-East. People in Syria/Lebanon look extremely different from the people in Saudi Arabia. They just happen to speak the same language (heck the accent is quite different too)

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Were the machines always on regardless? Wouldnt they have consumed some portion of the said electricity no matter what? Or was he preventing the machines from being shutdown or sleeping?

> Wouldnt they have consumed some portion of the said electricity no matter what? Some yes, but there's a lot of difference between a machine idling at 0% CPU and one fully loaded with SETI or Folding and running 100% all the time. Would be even more worse now with deep sleep states and GPGPU, but even back then the difference between an idle and a fully loaded machine was absolutely significant.

During the winter months, the electric heaters that were also performing computation would supplement the normal dumb heaters. The cost of electricity or fuel saved on heating should therefore be subtracted from the cost of running @Home. Likewise, additional cooling costs would have to be added for the summer months.

Once those kWh are used in the CPU, they don't just disappear. They become heat.

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/414050/computer-cluster...

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32816775

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At the teacher level, they are underpaid. My girlfriend is a high school teacher w/ 4 years experience, a masters degree in her topic, and works 12+ hours a day (not kidding, seriously all day). She makes $35k / year. How much do teachers in her school system who have 25 years experience make? The union-mandated tenure system, which prevents young, talented teachers from making even vaguely competitive salaries, but…

In my school district[0] teachers start at $43,500 and max out at $63,688 (after 30 years and a PhD) You can pick up some extra stipends if you coach or work in certian departments (STEM) but good luck getting into 6 digits as a Teacher. When I taught in Massachusetts (where we have a teacher union)[1] pay starts at $36,400 and maxes out at $74,000 (with a PhD) after 19 years. Turns out that public school salary info…

Well, you can easily look up NYC teacher salaries. They start at $50k and go up to $105k. http://schools.nyc.gov/NR/rdonlyres/2712AB02-A1EF-4CE2-B879-...

When you take into account the shorter work day/work year http://www.uft.org/new-teachers/your-work-day-and-year

really good benefits, including a $50-$60k a year pension (http://www.empirecenter.org/publications/pension-calculator/) and essentially tenure...well, it's not too bad...

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What do the cops ever do with their time that isn't a waste? They only rarely and incidentally protect anyone from any actual threat. Mostly they hassle, ticket, menace, and otherwise inconvenience the public. If they all went on strike next week, violence and mayhem would decrease .

Right, there are no criminals, that is all just made up by the police-industial-complex.

2/3 of them are. If you doubt it, look at any international comparison of incarceration rates.

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>A system administrator was fired for installing/running seti@home on school computers. Actually, I agree with this. I remember when this got big and suddenly every IT department, school, etc had these things installed, clearly without permission. If you tried talking about wasted electricity, added pollution, and the social cost of running power hungry processors 24/7 for "alien points" on their forums (or any forum…

In an environment where kids are literally arrested for sending popup messages over the network, I think that attitude has some value. People are overreacting based on things they have no understanding of.

Do you have a link to this story about being arrested for sending messages?

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The police made repeated mention of his surname. You might want to ignore race but thischild's religion was clearly a factor for the investigating police.

You're mistaken. You might want to ignore race [...] I neither appreciate the defaming mischaracterization resulting from your mistake, nor do I appreciate the casual and irresponsible manner in which you do so: police made repeated mention of his surname. Neither the original DallasNews article nor the TechCrunch article makes any such assertion about . The only person who draws that assertion is his dad, for which…

Actually, it is the kid himself is who is saying it. http://mic.com/articles/125400/texas-police-officer-to-ahmed...

Now given you are getting all high and mighty bandying around terms like defamation, you going to go calling him a liar?

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When tasked with the protection of human capital, it's not a big surprise that the administration takes the most extreme response when confronted with uncertainty. That being said, the Engineering professor could have prevented the whole situation if he had just kept it in his class for the rest of the day instead of advising the student to "hide it".

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At the age of 14, I had to fly solo from LGA to ORD for my uncle's funeral. I had a one-way ticket purchased 18 hours before the flight. We all assumed that because of my age and appearance it wouldn't be suspicious. Wrong! I was stopped and questioned for an hour before being allowed to board.

I can only imagine the effect of an interrogation like that on a 14yr old. I was 24 and was completly drained by mine. I was questioned by each of the TSA, the local sheriff, and the plane's pilot and an airline rep. Three different interrogations all asking the same questions just to determine if I was going to be allowed to fly.

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Here's Jobs in his high school electronics club: http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm//wp-content/uploads/201... But yeah, I mean, I'm sure he was just there to tell them to use rounded corners on the circuit diagrams and meet girls. Just cos Woz was the nerd's nerd, let's not crap on Jobs too much - he was geeky enough to hang out with Woz, that should be good enough for everyone else, right?

Not for me. I propose a hypothetical test. In this test, the subject to be tested is socializing with his or her normal social circle. During this activity, a potential romantic interest interrupts, and proposes that they go out on a date with the subject, immediately. Responses are classified as follows. A: the subject leaves the gathering for the date. B: the subject declines the date. C: the subject counter-offers…

If this is really how you see the world, I pity you. Grow up, this is puerile identity politics at its best.

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If anyone is actually surprised by the administrations intelligence - I should remind you of 3 events: - A teacher confiscates Linux CDs claiming that the student was essentially distributing illegal copyrighted software - because no software is free [1] - A system administrator was fired for installing/running seti@home on school computers. There is a lot of controversy about this case - but I read one news article…

If public schools are going to succeed, then many states need to "catch up" when it comes to funding. More funding will attract more teachers, creating a stronger candidate pool. If you look at the average funding per student by state, Texas isn't doing so hot [1], especially for being the second largest state [2]. There's definitely more to it than just funding, but I think that would be a good starting point. [1] h…

Aren't some of the worst performing school districts also the most expensive?
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