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YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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This is very exciting! Is the program open to those of Brazilian descent?

They did mention they planned on later opening rounds specifically for foreign founders. But if you are based in the U.S., I think they'd consider you a hispanic founder and thus eligible for the current round, yes? I'm Brazilian too, btw, so kinda curious about this. Although I have no start-up aspirations just yet :-(

Yes!

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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post #16

I'm not trying to be a troll, I'm just trying to find a justification. Having something that says you can only can come in if you are "Black, Hispanic, Women, Veterans, and International founders" kinda racist as fuck? It sounds exactly like segregation to me. Again, not trying to be a troll. Not American, just trying to understand.

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A look at the actual racial distribution of every major tech company hurts your point here.

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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You planning to open up such a thing for the handicapped as well? I mean, until the ACA came along, I pretty much took a risk-aversion pattern career path so I wouldn't get thrown into the "prexisting condition" abyss, and I'm probably not alone here. Personally speaking, a lot of handicapped folk I've met through the years are quite clever, innovative, and determined, because starting life at the plate with a 3-2 co…

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Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

#37

You planning to open up such a thing for the handicapped as well? I mean, until the ACA came along, I pretty much took a risk-aversion pattern career path so I wouldn't get thrown into the "prexisting condition" abyss, and I'm probably not alone here. Personally speaking, a lot of handicapped folk I've met through the years are quite clever, innovative, and determined, because starting life at the plate with a 3-2 co…

That's a good idea!

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

#38

I'm not trying to be a troll, I'm just trying to find a justification. Having something that says you can only can come in if you are "Black, Hispanic, Women, Veterans, and International founders" kinda racist as fuck? It sounds exactly like segregation to me. Again, not trying to be a troll. Not American, just trying to understand.

Because, at least in America, all of the time is 'white male time', and people of color and women often feel intimidated in spaces that are dominated in this way, so efforts are made to encourage a focus on marginalized people.

>all of the time is "white male time"

Like black churches and communities, professional women's societies, women's shelters, scholarships for women, women's clubs at schools, and so on? In elementary schools, where >90% of teachers are female? Among psychology majors, with 60-70% women? Do you really suggest that it is always "white male time" everywhere?

Go ask a white kid growing up in a mostly black, poor neighborhood whether he feels like it's "his time."

Initiatives like this should be based on socioeconomics, not race.

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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post #4

> Black, Hispanic, Women, Veterans, and International founders. I think it's great that YC is concerned about helping non-elite people. What about just focusing on helping poor people compete in Silicon Valley in general? Does anyone think wealthy founders of any kind need more help than poor founders of any kind?

You would think all the efforts towards social outreach would focus on poverty as their #1 criteria - the most direct and obvious criteria of people in need - but they almost never do. The problem is these programs are created by upper-class people in their media-social bubble, cobbled together from the arbitrary championings within that bubble. Unfortunately poverty doesn't have a strong, dedicated representative in these upper class circles, because only a tiny number of people born poor ever make it into the media or valley cocktail parties. Black, Hispanic, Women, Veterans - all have members both in needy classes and in upper classes to champion their own cause. But using this represented-in-the-bubble approach results in an arbitrary mix of random criteria that only half serves the purpose. There are certainly many Black/Hispanic/Women/Veterans in need and deserving of help, but there's also plenty who are trust fund babies who don't need it. Meanwhile, there are a lot of obvious groups left out of this list - Native Americans, poor Appalachian whites, etc. It seems ridiculous to explicitly help Blacks and Hispanics, but not Native Americans. We could go on and list a dozen more needy groups left out, but why bother when the correct criteria should just be poverty.

Re: YC Open Office Hours for Black and Hispanic Founders

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because, at least in America, all of the time is 'white male time', and people of color and women often feel intimidated in spaces that are dominated in this way, so efforts are made to encourage a focus on marginalized people.

Notice that it's Black and Hispanic, and not Asian? At least Asian women might have dedicated office hours ("We will start with Black and Hispanic founders and if successful we hope to launch future Open Office Hours for Women, Veterans, and International founders.") Always seems like Asian men in the U.S. get the 'worst' of being a minority. Neither the societal advantages of white majority, nor the ability to acces…

As an Asian man in the US, I have to say, it ain't so bad getting the "worst" of being a minority.
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