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14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

#621

Why is this a link to an aggregation piece by TechCrunch, rather than the original reported story by Dallas Morning News? http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dall...

The Dallas News version was submitted at least 4 times, TechCrunch was the one that stuck:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10224216

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10224223

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10224649

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10224747

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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post #619

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I love it when "guilty until proven innocent" gets brought up in internet conversations, as if it were somehow the right way to have a conversation. This isn't a court of law. Skepticism is, of course, always warranted, but equating it with high principles of justice is ridiculous. We're not putting someone in prison here. And institutional racism against certain categories of brown people is far beyond a mere assump…

You're misunderstanding, mischaracterizing, and conflating your own arguments. It's a rhetorical appeal to authority, so implicitly, in addition to anyone who shares my respect for and identifies with the values of the American legal heritage, I agree with it. Therefore, even though it has no direct application, as you unnecessarily point out, it is a rhetorical convenience for delineating our very different views of…

Oh yes, the good old "my argument is based entirely on facts, while yours is based entirely on nonsense, so they are not comparable."

Except I don't see a single fact in your original comment.

Sorry, but we're both in the same boat here. We're both making political comments while bringing in our own biases based on a lot of assumptions about how things went down. The difference is, I admit it.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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post #609

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To have a bomb you need explosives . Did this "looks like a bomb" have anything that looked like explosives? No. Therefore it did not actually look like a bomb. I assume that you meant to google image search IED. Doing so, I see one image with an exposed PCB. I see several images with cell phones. One shows a Coke can. Are we to believe that an exposed Coke can also "looks like a bomb"? Or should we maybe believe tha…

You may want to check comment history of the account you're replying to.

Why? I don't see anything particularly remarkable there.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

#624
"What are you doing out?"

"Walking," said Leonard Mead.

"Walking!"

"Just walking," he said simply, but his face felt cold.

"Walking, just walking, walking?"

"Yes, sir."

"Walking where? For what?"

"Walking for air. Walking to see."

"Your address!"

"Eleven South Saint James Street."

"And there is air in your house, you have an air conditioner, Mr. Mead?"

"Yes."

"And you have a viewing screen in your house to see with?"

"No."

"No?" There was a crackling quiet that in itself was an accusation.

"Are you married, Mr. Mead?"

"No."

"Not married," said the police voice behind the fiery beam, The moon was high and clear among the stars and the houses were gray and silent.

"Nobody wanted me," said Leonard Mead with a smile.

"Don't speak unless you're spoken to!"

Leonard Mead waited in the cold night.

"Just walking, Mr. Mead?"

"Yes."

"But you haven't explained for what purpose."

---

Excerpted from Ray Bradbury's short story 'The Pedestrian'.

For fairly obvious and somewhat depressing reasons.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

#625

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What part of his appearance gives the former away?

The cop may already know the kid or have heard about his hobbies? We have no idea, we just have a short bit of hearsay.

"He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: 'Yup. That’s who I thought it was.'"

Almost certainly not known to him before this incident.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dall...

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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post #511

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C'mon, this is prejudice. If the kid's name were Jack or Sean or even Claudio, nothing would have happened except his teacher would have said "cool!"

...meanwhile in reality: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-fing...

That's also bad, but not really related to the issue under discussion.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Bigotry, maybe. There's a chance (which I'd estimate at smaller than 1%) that there was no racial motivation here. But I don't see how you can say there's no grounds to make accusations of ignorance and cowardice. Being unaware of what a bomb looks like is clearly ignorance, and being so terrified that you get an innocent kid arrested for it is clearly cowardice.

Handcuffs went too far. But that's a protocol issue for US lawmakers etc. We've all seen protocol out of control in the States for a host of different incidents. No need to react so much in the other direction either, making this kid an ambassador of "freedom to pack electronics in a case and bring it to school" or whatever. He made an error of judgement going against his teacher's advice, and a ton of bricks came do…

Ok, it's been fun flagging your comments, but now I'm going to make a plea:

1) Please, stop posting to this thread. Surely you've noticed the color of all of your comments by now. You're not being flagged because people disagree with you; you're being flagged because of your creepy, racist, broken thought process, and your earnest attempts to talk us all through your, ummn, 'unique point of view'.

2) dang, please do something if he doesn't.

Listen, HN, you can't deny "blatant overreach of white, privileged americans in their attempts to dehumanize anyone they perceive as other, from Ferguson to Brooklyn" isn't a thing these days. No point of covering your ears and insisting everyone wants to get along.

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